Another nail in liberty’s coffin.

Posted on March 5, 2015 by KG

NZ:
‘Customs is seeking new powers including requiring a person to provide a password or access to their electronic devices.
The agency has also floated other possibilities including collection of biometric information and making passengers empty their pockets if asked by an officer, even if there is no reasonable suspicion….’        link
Wabbit will go to jail rather than comply.  Not everything is the State’s business. The idea of personal privacy may be on its last legs among younger people – and anathema to governments – but damned if  it is for me.

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24 Responses to Another nail in liberty’s coffin.

  1. DavidW says:
    March 5, 2015 at 15:16

    Going through Immigration on leaving Israel I have been asked to fire up my laptop, show them that it works and demonstrate that I knew my way round enough to open some files. They did not want to see what was on the files , just to confirm I was genuine. I see no need for them to be given access to locked files though.

  2. mawm says:
    March 5, 2015 at 15:28

    we have no way of uncovering evidence of criminal offending even when we know the device holds this evidence

    Well then get a court to agree with you before you look into mine. :evil:

    Key and this National government are firmly in the pocket of the UN and the Progressives.

    • KG says:
      March 5, 2015 at 17:10

      And how do they “know” the device holds the evidence before they look at it?
      Customs already have far too much power and they sure as hell don’t need any more.
      Warrantless, suspicionless searches by government agents constitutes nothing less than tyranny. Bastards. :evil:
      The idea of individual liberty is totally foreign to that weasel Key.

  3. caleb says:
    March 5, 2015 at 15:32

    They will want to microchip us next..

    Are they trying to protect us from ourselves or protect them from us?

    • Darin says:
      March 5, 2015 at 16:52

      Yep,they want data,data,data and more data in the belief they can manage every aspect of our lives and manipulate us into complete submission with less individual freedom than common farm animals.

  4. mistress mara says:
    March 5, 2015 at 17:53

    KG. No, a mass uprising will not happen. We conservatives are getting old, tired and out numbered. We will go to our graves pissed off but powerless.

    • Wombat says:
      March 5, 2015 at 19:15

      Not true. I’ve barely rounded the bend on my third decade and most of the pistol shooters at my club are my age.

      Let me tell you. They aint interested in “sport”.

    • caleb says:
      March 5, 2015 at 19:26

      Hehe, I’m 34 but you’re right, the luxuries of today provided by past sacrifice, have breed few conservatives. Most people my age and younger barely consider politics, have no real understanding of history and no care for the future. It seems that it is human nature to not learn, repeat the same mistakes and rise again. A few will foresee it, the majority condemn all to it and a few find a way through it. Very melancholy, I know, but what is the end game with government expanding into our lives by borrowing to bribe us. Can’t continue in peace and happiness forever…

      • Darin says:
        March 6, 2015 at 03:14

        The cure for the age gap at the local range is to get the wife and kids out.Here you see kids from 12 up and surprisingly lots of girls.Not because girls can’t shoot,but because the bulk of popular thought pits their attitudes against guns.

        My buddy’s two daughters wanted nothing to do with guns at all until they watched the Hunger games and took interest with Archery.Over the last couple years both have moved up to .22lr rifles and are excelling at shooting.

        If we want to carry freedom forward we have to train up the next generation.It’s all up to us,no one else will do it.

  5. Wombat says:
    March 5, 2015 at 19:18

    God forbid this nonsense passes parliament, read it carefully and know how to resist it lawfully.

    For instance, remove the battery before you enter or leave the terminal.

    It’s not freedom, but it’s a fair old “f$#k you” to the customs Nazis.

    • Brown says:
      March 8, 2015 at 08:14

      I recall a sign at a terminal yesterday while transiting etc… (can’t say if in Oz or NZ) you can’t have spare batteries in luggage. You could argue its not spare etc… but I think they would use it against you.

  6. johnmo says:
    March 5, 2015 at 19:22

    A New Zealand Citizen on New Zealand Soil.
    Customs MUST be the same as the Police.
    A court order is required!!

  7. Michael in Nelson says:
    March 5, 2015 at 20:42

    Johnmo, how bout a permanent resident in NZ? Does probable cause or the idea of needing warrant before a search and seizure not apply to us?

  8. Ronbo says:
    March 6, 2015 at 01:22

    caleb said:

    “Hehe, I’m 34 but you’re right, the luxuries of today provided by past sacrifice, have breed few conservatives. Most people my age and younger barely consider politics, have no real understanding of history and no care for the future. It seems that it is human nature to not learn, repeat the same mistakes and rise again. A few will foresee it, the majority condemn all to it and a few find a way through it. Very melancholy, I know, but what is the end game with government expanding into our lives by borrowing to bribe us. Can’t continue in peace and happiness forever…”

    If that is true then why have we seen the rise of the Tea Party Movement in America, UKIP in Britain and a powerful right wing in France :?: I do believe Australia has a Tea Party and the government is controlled by conservatives. I don’t know about New Zealand…You guys better get going and jump on the bandwagon, heh? :mrgreen

    Yes, there are many grey heads to be seen on the Right, but a bunch of old people couldn’t muster the millions of votes nationwide to take control of the U.S. Congress, as happened in elections after 2010 :?: I will admit it’s come to little in our Congress, but the reactionary traitors RINOs from yesterday still control the all important.

    Yes, we patriots (conservatives, nationalists, rightists, or whatever you want to call the opposition to the Left) have NOT pushed our capitalist ideology since the 1980s and this has been a major malfunction; however, the young ones have eyes and ears and want jobs…Guess what :?: The few jobs available go to the non-English speaking colored illegal aliens. These 20 something white kids are pissed off and living with their parents in the basement, because – guess what :?: They have no income. Housing, food stamps and the rest of the welfare package go to the black and brown skinned ones.

    However, they are welcomed in the U.S. military….as infantrymen, armored troops, or field artillery, etc. Frontline troops, heh :?: Cannon Manure. :evil: If you don’t believe me take a look at the pictures of the infantry in the field today, or a VA hospital where the young men missing arms or legs are young white men. The colored troops get all the juicy combat support jobs like military intelligence that in the past were given to those with higher I.Q.s, educations and no criminal records – the whites.

    What we have here with the young white 20 something white people born in the 1990s is a potential REVOLUTIONARY CLASS :!: All that is needed for bad shit to start happening to our various Western Regimes are young revolutionary leaders with a little Ayn Rand style capitalist ideology under their belts and fire in their bellies to pick up the flags and storm the government buildings.

    It happened in 1775 in America, 1789 in France, 1848 in Germany.

    What happened once can happen again – especially as mankind seems to learn nothing from history and repeats it endlessly.

    The Age of Reaction always leads to the Age of Revolution :!: :evil:

    ….and at least in America we aren’t breeding another generation of quiet middle class conservatives who won’t rock the boat, but millions of pissed off white kids with no future and nothing to lose by revolution. :evil:

    • Darin says:
      March 6, 2015 at 03:06

      Ron,I was thinking of the coming browning of America yesterday.It won’t be blacks,they are getting screwed over by the dems and their percentage of the population is declining.
      Hispanics is where it’s at,they are flooding in by droves.If I am reading it right the best thing that could happen to halt illegal immigration and for that matter immigration of all sorts is a financial collapse.

      In 08 many folks from south of the border self deported,there simply was no work for them and America is still an expensive place to live.If that were to happen my gut feeling is the soft lazy ones will self deport leaving the two smallest groups,those that work hard and want to be citizens and of course the hard core criminal gang members.

      I also did notice that the best kept secret is the level of violence against blacks from Hispanics and nobody is mentioning a word about it.That fact in of itself is damning evidence that the white,lib dem core has abandoned blacks,which is good for us.

    • Yokel says:
      March 6, 2015 at 03:36

      Ron,
      UKIP is the only organisation that I can speak about, from those that you name. I start by being seriously disillusioned by the sameness of the actions of political parties once in power, regardless of their claims during election campaigns. Almost as though the real government is hidden and continues regardless of the elected “representatives”.

      I was hoping for UKIP to have a dramatic and honest effect on British politics. But to describe the outfit as amateur would be a great disservice to all those amateurs who make themselves properly competent in their unpaid service to society.

      A recent example is that with the election coming in May, UKIP still (early March) has no manifesto and with ad hoc policy changes continuing almost daily. The truth is that Farage has driven most competent people out of the party and replaced them with sycophants to whom he appears to have little loyalty. Provided he has a good speech writer, Farage is excellent at 3 or 4 minute barbs on YouTube. Different skills entirely from what is needed to run an opposition, let alone a party in government.

      Sadly, UKIP is not the opposition we can rally round.

      • Wombat says:
        March 6, 2015 at 11:14

        This is the problem.

        A libertarian or anti-immigration candidate, for example, is asked what their policy is on the subsidy program for east asian mackeral imports.

        “What the f$%k are you talking about”, they might reply.

        “See”, says the reporter, “we cannot have such incompetence in government.”

        Ask a professional politician the same question and despite the fact that they’re just as clueless about the issue as the libertarian candidate they will answer to the effect of “well, we have to consult all shareholders and reach an agreement that is both sustainable and viable economically blah blah blah…”

        Want a solution? We need to stop looking for Lancelot to ride in on a white steed, form a pure and wise political party and save us all from the mess we’ve all let happen on our watch.

        What comes next needs to be bloody and hard or we will have learned nothing.

        • KG says:
          March 6, 2015 at 15:16

          “What comes next needs to be bloody and hard or we will have learned nothing.”
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  9. Cadwallader says:
    March 6, 2015 at 13:19

    Just woke up to this: This is vile and unnecessary. Those in favour offer the one “justification:” America and Australia do it! FFS.

    • KG says:
      March 6, 2015 at 15:16

      Because they have no real justification. It’s just a grab for further power, as though Customs doesn’t have enough already. :evil: