The State owns the children:

Posted on April 1, 2015 by KG

NZ:  ‘Doctors are developing protocols to refer obese children to Child, Youth and Family (CYF) protection services if their parents ignore medical advice to help their children lose weight…’
Amazing, what the fascists can get away with in the name of “the children”.

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29 Responses to The State owns the children:

  1. mistress mara says:
    April 1, 2015 at 17:45

    Every week I see fat bastards feeding their fat children fattening crap. I wouldn’t care but those fat bastards end up clogging hospital clinics with their fat consequences. This means that people who didn’t eat their way to pathology have to wait too long for treatment. Where do you draw the line?

  2. KG says:
    April 1, 2015 at 19:12

    “..those fat bastards end up clogging hospital clinics with their fat consequences”
    If we didn’t have socialised medicine, that wouldn’t be a problem.
    Socialised medicine gives the State unlimited power to control people’s lives.

    • Wombat says:
      April 1, 2015 at 23:52

      This is it.

      “It used to be your body, but now we (the state) have to pay for the consequences of your actions. Therefore we have more than enough pretext to determine what perils we will allow you to undertake.”

  3. Brown says:
    April 1, 2015 at 20:16

    You bastards know how to lay on guilt as I finish a large, expensive and indulgent beer. Imagine all the fat kids being in state care – you’d slim down pretty quick to escape the lesbians and pedo’s.

  4. Lindsay says:
    April 1, 2015 at 20:41

    An e-mail sent to Leighton Smith today:

    “There is no economic argument to reduce obesity. Morbidly overweight people have shorter lives and subsequently cost the state less over their lifetimes.

    The moral argument lies in trying to increase adult’s and children’s quality and longevity of life for their own sake. Ultimately that is their choice and responsibility. Being obese is like many other undesirable conditions. It won’t change until the individual (or parent as proxy for the minor) wants it to.”

    • KG says:
      April 1, 2015 at 20:52

      Perfectly put, Lindsay. But you used a word he may not understand…”responsibility”.

    • mawm says:
      April 1, 2015 at 21:36

      “…that is their choice..”

      Lindsay what you say is so true, it comes down to personal choice. The problem is that people are no longer equipped with the knowledge and the ability to make those decisions. The State took that away a long time ago.

      I can remember when smokers were denied heart surgery on the basis that they had not given up smoking so they didn’t deserve the resources being spent on them. Nowadays I have to treat patients who have BMI’s of 80+ (when 20 – 22 is considered normal). It is dangerous and difficult (and I have a chronic back pain from moving them on and off their beds), but it is not PC to tell a person they are fat, let alone deny them health care, because of their dietary and lifestyle choices (and because most belong to a race different to mine).

      However no government will stop the obesity epidemic through legislation. The only way change will happen is when a community realises that by eating the wrong foods, living an unhealthy lifestyle and by being overweight they will have a shortened and poor quality life. Provide them with an honest education and allow them to make their own choices. (Some of us remember when it it used to be like that.)

        • Lindsay says:
          April 1, 2015 at 21:51

          “The problem is that people are no longer equipped with the knowledge and the ability to make those decisions. The State took that away a long time ago.”

          Mawm, I don’t think the state took away the “knowlege”. People are better informed today than ever before. It took away the consequences of making bad choices.

          • Lindsay says:
            April 1, 2015 at 21:54

            “Knowledge”! Apologies for putting quotation marks around a typo.

          • mawm says:
            April 1, 2015 at 22:03

            People are well informed today……about whatever the Kardashians are doing, what is happening on “reality” TV shows, who has slept with whom, etc, etc. However they do not have the kind of knowledge that allows them to make rational decisions about political and personal choices, and their consequences. Granted there are those who have used the wonderful resources available on the net and have prospered both intellectually and financially, but unfortunately this is not the case for the drones watching the 5 o’clock soaps.

          • Wombat says:
            April 2, 2015 at 00:02

            “People are better informed today than ever before. It took away the consequences of making bad choices.”

            Amen.

            The government absolutely loves the body-whole of self-gratifying morons preaching”eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we get a bed and three meals at Emergency”.

            This is because when we absolve the individual of their responsibility then it naturally falls to a “higher” authority to keep these dumb apes in line.

            An organised descent into controlled chaos, where the masters preside over us like zoo keepers over caged animals.

    • The Gantt Guy says:
      April 2, 2015 at 05:20

      Bloody well said, Lindsay. It’s exactly the same argument about smoking.

  5. Lindsay says:
    April 1, 2015 at 21:14

    Thanks KG. Smith constantly tells his audience personal responsibility is the only answer to societal (politically-promoted) problems. Have you listened to him?

    • KG says:
      April 1, 2015 at 21:16

      No, I must admit I haven’t, Lindsay. I’ve turned off most of the media voices out of anger and frustration.

      • The Gantt Guy says:
        April 2, 2015 at 05:35

        Smith is about the only one on radio in NZ worth listening to. He speaks out against the state take-over of every single aspect of our lives, against the pagan religion of “climate change”, and is – at least in a broad sense – anti-socialism.

        And a couple of years ago he quoted on the air something I wrote here at CR, so of course I’m a fan!

  6. Lindsay says:
    April 1, 2015 at 21:32

    You would enjoy him. He references people like Theodore Dalrymple, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell… is outspoken against the man-made global warming industry, an Obama critic and thoroughly opposed to socialism. Unfortunately he doesn’t broadcast to Wellington regularly. NewstalkZB has its own Wellington show whilst Leighton broadcasts elsewhere. This week he has been covering Wellington as a stand-in for the local host. I love it. Philosophically I’d say he’s Libertarian – Conservative, though boxes/ labels are unsatisfactory.

    • KG says:
      April 1, 2015 at 21:39

      Thanks. I’ll make an effort to listen to him, if it’s possible from here.
      The conventional labels for the spectrum of political positions are hopeless, really. “Conservative” comes closest to my own position, but there are some glaring differences between what I believe and what a lot of political conservatives preach.

    • mawm says:
      April 1, 2015 at 21:41

      Yeah, he’s good but he is intolerant of people who have a different opinion. It must be the progressive in him! Still it is good to hear a somewhat conservative voice.

  7. Darin says:
    April 2, 2015 at 01:33

    Risk Compensation,if you feel an action or activity is less risky often you tend to take more risks.I believe this applies to many facets of life,whether it be the use of safety equipment or response to government policy.

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/buckle-up-your-seatbelt-and-behave-117182619/?no-ist

    I don’t agree with some of the views on seat belt usage.I know for a fact that when I first started using a seatbelt I did drive 5-10 mph faster after I started,simply because it felt more safe.

    Notice also the two diametrically opposed methods of mitigating risk,One says penalize and the other says reward.It gets pretty obvious which mechanism works better.Reward almost always yields the better outcome.

    My State recently did something that has liberal safety freaks,well,freaking out.Come July 1st this year we will no longer be required to obtain a vehicle inspection sticker aka brake tag.The statistics have long pointed out that contrary to common belief older vehicles are involved in fewer accidents than newer ones.I would give the reason as to why,but CR readers already know the answer. ;-)

    • Contempt says:
      April 2, 2015 at 03:51

      :shock: Darin, “I would give the reason as to why,but CR readers already know the answer” Since I live over in South Carolina, you will have to tell me the reason. You dudes in Mississippi are so much more intelligent that we are. I drive a ’91 car. It runs like a wild dog with ticks on its balls. :roll: