NZ’s creeping fascism:

Posted on August 25, 2015 by KG

‘New health and safety laws contain ‘secret courts’ provision
A last minute change to new health and safety laws expands the use of controversial “secret courts.”
The Law Society has drawn attention to a late addition to the contentious reforms.
It would allow hearings behind closed doors to protect national security. Secret intelligence could be introduced into proceedings by the Government, but neither the defendant or their lawyers can see the evidence….’
Slow-boiled frog, anyone?

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6 Responses to NZ’s creeping fascism:

  1. The Gantt Guy says:
    August 25, 2015 at 21:35

    Secret Courts?
    National Security considerations?

    IN A HEALTH AND FUCKING SAFETY LAW????????

    Oooh, come on in Ethel, the water’s lovely and warm!

  2. Yokel says:
    August 25, 2015 at 22:54

    I think it must be that no “sensible” unthinking person can possibly object to “Health & Safety”. But like so much else that has been hijacked by the Left, its meaning is not what most people imagine.

    When I started in H&S the best part of three decades ago, the principal focus was on making sure that you went home with an arm or a leg on each corner, a head on top, and that work hadn’t rearranged you any. But even then there was a warning that all was not right. It was the British Health and Safety at Work Act of 1974 that reversed the burden of proof for employers; they had to demonstrate to the court that they were innocent not or the Crown to prove that they were guilty. Just a tiny little change, we were told, to stop really nasty employers running rings round the Factory Inspector, but nothing to worry about!

    Since then of course the law has become much more prescriptive, and has ventured into places that H&S law should never go. At the same time the UK Factory Inspectorate has been dumbed down to reduce costs. Whereas those three decades ago they mostly recruited people mid career who were competent at some operational function and turned them into Factory Inspectors. They were competent, understood how work worked, and understood the word “proportionate”. Now they take them wet behind the ears straight from a University of Middle Wallop Elfin Safety for Ambitious Prodnoses course, give them a warrant and tell them to go out and boss employers around. No experience of the workplace except what they learned in class from a middle aged ex trades unionist turned lecturer.

    So if the NZ enforcement people are anything like those in the UK, nobody in the system will even see that there is anything to object about in this proposal for secret courts. It will be perfectly ordinary and necessary for the task they have been given. If they have been on a Common Purpose training course then the task they have been given will have no relation to the tasks on their job description for they will be “leading beyond authority”.

    Or to put it another way, I agree with Gantt that it is al f’d up and this is the handbasket.

    • Darin says:
      August 26, 2015 at 01:03

      The same experience here exactly,mission creep is a huge problem with all government agencies at all levels.

  3. Ronbo says:
    August 26, 2015 at 00:13

    The Star Chamber creeps into New Zealand….Chilling, heh?

    So the court meets in secret and determines you are to arrested.

    The sheriff cuffs you and throws you into the deep dungeon in dead of night without giving you reason for the arrest – and there you wait your fate – as your family and lawyer will not be told – this is a secret arrest, after all.

    What’s next? Divine Right Kings complete with a formal aristocracy of Barons to keep us Serfs in line?

    Thus the West World marches boldly back to the past!

  4. Brown says:
    August 26, 2015 at 07:14

    You have to be dead not to smell a rat in this. Inch by inch becomes miles.