New Zealand – the theft of a country:

Posted on November 12, 2016 by KG

‘Just this week National’s Environment Minister Nick Smith announced to the House that the highly controversial Mana Whakahono a Rohe Agreements – designed by Iwi Leaders to give Maori tribes exclusive control over all natural resources (including fresh water) in their areas – are being included in the Resource Legislation Amendment Bill…’

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35 Responses to New Zealand – the theft of a country:

  1. mawm says:
    November 12, 2016 at 21:36

    Apartheid New Zealand. Based purely on race (or more truthfully just a little bit of DNA that is not European) a minority group gets privileges and extra political sway than others. Horror of horrors there is even a rugby team picked purely on race! http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • KG says:
      November 12, 2016 at 21:52

      And Kiwis pride themselves on being non-racist…http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_wacko.gif
      (I just sent my local National MP a mail asking him what his position is on this.)

  2. Brown says:
    November 12, 2016 at 22:22

    This may not go far if the shift apparent in Brexit, much of Western Europe generally and US presidential voting is an indicator. I think a majority are just about fed up with this nonsense and bite they will.

    • KG says:
      November 12, 2016 at 22:28

      I hope like hell they do, Brown.
      I’ll vote for Winston, just to piss them off. :lol:

    • Cadwallader says:
      November 13, 2016 at 15:51

      I tend to agree. The Trump camp have much to be grateful to British voters for their success. The message from Brexit, so superbly enunciated by Nigel Farage, is close to that of the Trump campaign. The next domino to fall well may be France, but if the people reject the trashy Progressives ideas, they’ll still have a big job cleaning-up. I note that the Hungarians are planning a further fence to keep their border secure. It is to be circa 500kms along their Serbian border, about 2.5m tall and topped with razor wire. The Hungarian Premier was one of the first from Europe to congratulate Donald Trump with the added message:http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_good.gif “Democracy is alive!”

  3. Ronbo says:
    November 12, 2016 at 23:28

    This is NONSENSE! This is nothing less than the theft by a radical minority of public property belonging to all citizens of New Zealand.

    1. If you are born in a particular country – regardless of race – YOU ARE A NATIVE!

    2. If you immigrate from another country and are naturalized as a citizen – you have the same civil rights as the native born citizens.

    3. Therefore, no one is above the law; no one below the law.

    This law places one class of citizens above other citizens – it is clearly RACIST and discriminates against NZ citizens of European, Asian, or African ancestry.

    Yes, the time has come for the majority to slap down the theft of public property by a radical minority – and let the pieces fall where they may – NO MORE MR. NICE GUYS!

    • Ronbo says:
      November 12, 2016 at 23:38

      Another thought New Zealanders: Think about declaring a republic if the current regime in power will not become reasonable.

      Seriously, PULL THE RUG RIGHT OUT FROM UNDER THEM!

      The first move would be to write a constitution that would forbid such nonsense as the theft of public property.

      Like my old dad said, “Son, you can never beat a man at his own game, so make him play your game and beat him.”

      “KIWI REPUBLIC?” Perhaps its time has come.

  4. Warren Tooley says:
    November 13, 2016 at 00:53

    The first part of any constitution is to have gold and silver as money. If they can borrow, it means if the taxes aren’t enough they will still spend plenty and eventually you’ll pay more tax. First part of a constitution, work out the money system. 2nd step, work out what kind of taxes are appropriate and necessary. 3rd step division of power. Then your government will be on a short leash.

    • Ronbo says:
      November 13, 2016 at 02:07

      Excellent idea, Warren!

      Yes, if I were a Kiwi patriot looking for a way to make lasting change to my country’s government, I’d push the idea of a republic. Of course, not because I disrespect the ties with Britain and Queen Elizabeth II – who is your head of state – or want to change the NZ flag, which is quite beautiful and can’t be improved, but rather because time has march on…

      I mean in our colonial period, America was in the same political situation. I think of the Anglosphere as being part of this same family. We were the children of Mother England, but today we are adults. We can love the old folks at home respect, support and defend them, but we need our own house.

      Today despite all the restrictions placed upon the backs of the hardworking people of New Zealand, your beautiful country – in terms of awesome natural beauty – has become one of the top ten wealthy countries in world!

      So just think of what you could do without fat socialist politicians – booted and spurred – ridding on your backs because they have rigged the parliamentary system in such a way to make it impossible for a Donald Trump to rise and for meaningful reforms to be made.

      • Darin says:
        November 13, 2016 at 02:50

        “it means if the taxes aren’t enough they will still spend plenty and eventually you’ll pay more tax.”

        Warren,my state has a balanced budget amendment written into it’s constitution.It’s simple and works fairly well.Every budget passed must be neutral otherwise taxes must be raised or expenses must be cut.

        We are classed as a “poor” state,but that simply means we aren’t in debt like every other state.It is my firm belief that no matter what form of government,how much or how little taxes are collected with out a hard limit any government will always out spend it’s resources.It’s just human nature to do so.

        • Ronbo says:
          November 13, 2016 at 03:39

          This works well for state governments because they don’t create the money; however, the federal government makes the money – and today they don’t even have go thru the expense and trouble of printing the banknotes – they simply have bureaucrats add some zeros to whatever amount of money the government thinks it needs…

          Debt limit? Have a majority of lackey politicians raise the debt limit, or simply don’t do a budget, which is what Democrat Congresses have done.

          I guess the only way to keep a central government on budget is to go back to the gold standard and reality.

        • Warren Tooley says:
          November 13, 2016 at 03:46

          Darin you make a fine point in regards to State spending. Here in New Zealand the council’s spend more than they earn, and then next year raise our rates. So what I’m saying is I agree, but unfortunately your state is only part of the government.

  5. Warren Tooley says:
    November 13, 2016 at 03:59

    Thanks Ronbo, for your compliments. And yes you also have a point about the federal government. The 14th Amendment gives the US government the right to borrow money, based on US persons. Section 4 gives them that right, section 1 gives them privileges and it calls them persons. When FDR said hand over the gold, he said all ‘persons’. Americans were pledged to pay the debt to creditors.

    So that’s the system we have in place, your child gets a birth registration, they invest in your child, and when your child is an adult, they expect your child to make a contribution, and then people wonder why the government tells families how they need to behave!

    Anyhow its time for a NZ constitution, the government is not taking its debt seriously, it has too many silly programs that are costing money. Here’s what I propose as an in the meantime solution a merit based tax, welfare and pension system. For those who’ve been getting state support for years and years why should they get the same pension as those who’ve worked for more than 40 years.

    I would have this apply to everybody except the disabled. That’s how I’d bring government spending down. If you use a government service you will pay for it with your tax dollars, and it will affect your pension.

    I would have two branches of government. One branch would provide the essentials: police law and order and defense, the other social services.

  6. Warren Tooley says:
    November 13, 2016 at 04:02

    I would also have an opt out possibility. Once an adult has paid enough income tax to have paid back the government for the public education, and all the other things they’ve received with interest, they can then decide no more income tax. They’ve paid for what they’ve received but they are on their own. Or they can continue to do things as normal, paying income tax, and being eligible for services.

  7. KG says:
    November 13, 2016 at 04:28

    Forget any idea of reform led by sheep. And the NZ media are nothing but a pack of dishonest assholes, helping create more sheeple. Get this:
    ‘Kiwis threatened with knife in California amidst wave of race-fuelled post-election violence in the US
    A former Young New Zealander of the Year and her Kiwi friend were threatened with a knife and racially abused in California this week, amid a wave of hate-crimes that have broken out since the US election result…’

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/86394667/kiwis-threatened-with-knife-in-california-amidst-wave-of-racefuelled-postelection-violence-in-the-us

    The fucking “hate crimes” have been almost exclusively black on white!!
    But..baaaaa…the truth..baaaaaaaa..might disturb…baaaaa..the sheep and mess up their carefully nurtured misconceptions. Can’t have that, can we? They might wake up and realise they’ve been taken for a ride.

    • Ronbo says:
      November 13, 2016 at 05:08

      Fortunately for New Zealand, the sheepdogs like you Warren are awake and smell the wolf all over place….and be of good cheer and look out of corner of your eyes and you’ll see more worried sheepdogs looking around in despair…they see deep in the woods and see the wolf ready to attack their flocks once again.

      What I’m saying is this: “Don’t expect the sheeple – the majority of people – to understand the wolf. After all, he tells them of all the nice things he will do for them…If only they are quiet in the night when he kills a few of the flock, or more likely cuts off their wool for the market – and gives back very little from the merchant he sold it to….

      Yes, the wolf is a clever fellow and his pack never kill the entire flock because the wolf is a parasite that cannot survive without his victims….So the wolf needs his victims, but victims don’t need the wolf – and this wisdom the noble sheepdogs tell their flocks, but year after year its same old story – Yes, the sheepdogs kill many a wolf, but the pack is just too numerous to get them all.

      Then one day an old and battle tested Sheepdog calls a meeting of the guardians of the flocks and they compare notes on wolf fighting. Finally, an intellectual looking sheepdog tells his mates – “Fellows we always fail to protect our flocks because the wolves gather in packs. If we are to defeat them we must go together into the dark woods to attack and destroy the wolf packs down to the last cub one at a time. Fellows on defense we will always be outnumbered and lose, but if we take the war to the wolf lair, he will be forced on the defensive and he will lose.”

      In other words, Crusader Sheepdogs take the war to the Left, put them on the defensive and you will win. How to do this? Well first of all you need to get together and make a plan of action. Then execute it. Attack, attack, ATTACK!

      …and be of good cheer – Yes, in the beginning you will be few, but the American Revolution was won by only 10% of the population. In time more and more sheeple will join the Crusade and count you as heroes. Then at some point you will hunt down and kill the last of wolves in your part of the world and the sheeple will live in peace.

      But you won’t…You will always sleep with one eye open for the yellow eyed wolf in the darkness.

      • Warren Tooley says:
        November 13, 2016 at 11:40

        Thanks Ronbo, and I have been thinking of a plan of attack for a long time now. For instance when the government splits up families, they need your money. They will seize half of your financial assets, make you pay alimony, and put the rest of the tax burden on everyone else. Now what if I could prove to you, that all financial assets have a record on them with the government, and they make you pay a tax. Your car requires you to pay a tax, your so called property requires a tax, they have a record on anything and everything you have to pay a tax on, but their is no record on gold and silver, and they have no jurisdiction on gold and silver except a once in a lifetime sales tax, and a once in a lifetime tax on profit.

        What if I were to wake people up in regards to this and told people if they put money in gold and silver its not an asset, its wealth, and the government can take your assets if you don’t play by the rules but gold and silver isn’t an asset. What’s more Gareth Morgan wants to tax your assets!

        The real estate agents and financial advisers won’t be happy, and neither will the government. Best of all I can prove this. According to their law dictionaries, an asset is simply their to pay a debt, it becomes an asset when you pledge that asset, where you receive a loan or service. A mortgage is a loan, using the road is a service, and if you fail they can take your asset that you pledged. With gold and silver their is no attachment on it, as you don’t need a service.

        Anyhow, I have plenty to prove that this is how it works, and I’m going to get the message out soon.

    • Warren Tooley says:
      November 13, 2016 at 11:27

      KG, actually you do have a point. The problem in this nation is our entitlement culture, the government will do this for me, isn’t the government good. The government is there to take care of us. I’ve tried to point out a few things, and the response is how can you say that, the bible says to obey the government!

      A number of things. First of all it says the government is appointed by God to punish the evildoer, that’s it. Nowhere does it say the government is meant to build roads, provide a public education etc. 2ndly the word in Romans 13, in an accurate version is subject. Sub-under ject-the pressure. If you read the whole passage, if the government is vertically aligned with God, we are meant to be vertically aligned with the government, in its job to punish the evildoer, but if they don’t God isn’t necessarily telling us to obey, immoral acts.

      So that’s the problem, too many people dependent on the government, too many people who don’t use an accurate bible like the NASB,ESV and KJV. Classic example working for families, this means the government is investing in your child and has jurisdiction over your child, and the more you get the more of an interest they have in your child. But I need that WFF, sometimes people can be their own worst enemies.

  8. Michael in Nelson says:
    November 14, 2016 at 00:34

    Here we go again! That’s the third strong aftershock I’ve felt here. The original 6.6 woke me. Hope the rest of the Kiwis here are safe.

    • Ronbo says:
      November 14, 2016 at 01:20

      Nasty things earthquakes – and they always seem to hit in the early morning hours when everyone is inside and in their beds…They never wake up because the damn roof falls in on them…In 1968 I was in the Philippines at Clark, AFB just north of Manila and ended up on the floor of my barracksroom under clothes, bunks and my roommate when our double decker bunk was knocked over.

      Fortunately, the USAF had well designed the buildings to hold up in an earthquake, but the base lost power and water for a day or two. No one was seriously injured at Clark Field, but just to the south in Manila thousands were killed and injured.

      Prayers up!

    • mawm says:
      November 14, 2016 at 05:10

      There have been plenty of aftershocks apparently….and now tsunami warnings for the east coast. I hope all are well and that there has not been too much destruction. Stay safe!

      • Michael in Nelson says:
        November 14, 2016 at 05:45

        The first reports I saw said there was no risk of a tsunami because the quakes were inland. The greatest risk would probably be from the aftershocks near Kaikoura. Sediment builds up on the South rim of the submarine Kaikoura canyon and the shaking could dislodge it.

  9. KG says:
    November 14, 2016 at 05:48

    It was a very strange quake – a kind of slow back- and- forth motion which seemed to go on forever.
    Upgraded to around 7.6 this morning. It’s always nice to get an upgrade. :lol:

    • Ronbo says:
      November 14, 2016 at 06:07

      Yes, that’s what I experience in the one I was in…just before I rolled off the bed it felt like being out in a boat in rough weather…and then as I hit the floor and an electric transformer exploded across the street filling the room with light.

      Like I said before this happened at Clark, AFB in the P.I. during the height of the Vietnam War so our first thoughts was that the base was under attack. There was lots of damage inside the buildings and with things like the electric and water, but nothing major.

  10. Ronbo says:
    November 14, 2016 at 05:58

    Yikes!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3931666/Magnitude-7-4-earthquake-jolts-New-Zealand-s-South-Island-near-Christchurch.html

    This earthquake is as bad as the one I was in during 1968 in the P.I. – major damage in Christchurch, which was still rebuilding from the one in 2011 – and as if that weren’t bad enough a tsunami is working over the coasts with waves up to six feet.

    The destructive power of mother nature is awesome – These fools who say mankind can destroy the planet are full of it.

  11. KG says:
    November 14, 2016 at 06:15

    “These fools who say mankind can destroy the planet are full of it.”
    :mrgreen: http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yes.gif