Finally someone asking the right questions

Posted on March 31, 2020 by Darin

Italian scientists investigate possible earlier emergence of Coronavirus-

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing/italian-scientists-investigate-possible-earlier-emergence-of-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D2IG

Italian researchers are looking at whether a higher than usual number of cases of severe pneumonia and flu in Lombardy in the last quarter of 2019 may be a signal that the new coronavirus might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.

He told Reuters he could not give exact figures but “hundreds” more people than usual had been taken to hospital in the last three months of 2019 in those areas – two of Lombardy’s worst hit cities – with pneumonia and flu-like symptoms, and some of those had died.

If this pans out, it would explain a lot of things and possibly that what we are seeing now is actually the second wave of C-19

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19 Responses to Finally someone asking the right questions

  1. Anonymous says:
    March 31, 2020 at 19:31

    Time for exhumation of some bodies…

  2. MAWM says:
    March 31, 2020 at 20:36

    Towards the end of last year I had a respiratory infection unlike anything I’ve had before. Initially I thought I might have contracted Legionnaires from garden compost (NZ has a high incidence of this) but in retrospect my symptoms were those described for this coronavirus. I’d like to see my antibodies.

    • Darin says:
      March 31, 2020 at 20:48

      Same here, end of February for me, fine when I woke up, raging headache, fever hacking cough by noon that day. Felt like death all day that Saturday ,completely tired ,slept most of the day Sunday and Monday, woke up feeling better that Tuesday.
      My boss experienced similar, but visited the ER as he’s 86. Someone we both had contact with a week prior has tested positive, but we haven’t heard when they got sick, so don’t know if we caught it from him or not.

  3. mawm says:
    March 31, 2020 at 20:37

    Typical unhinged leftist – sick, hateful and unwanted here.

  5. paul scott says:
    April 1, 2020 at 02:52

    The redoubtable Matt Ridley outlines the “Carrier” perspective in the article below. This virus is now becoming endemic. It will be, should be, if NZ Medicos ever get their self-serving act together routinely treated with Hydroxy Chloroquine = Plaquenil in clinical situations.
    http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/age-discrimination-of-coronavirus/

    • mawm says:
      April 1, 2020 at 18:20

      What happened to the “evidence based medicine” that was le cri de jour not so long ago amongst those so quick to criticise? Anecdotal reports, especially when the majority come from one source, are not evidence. http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_mail.gif

  6. paul scott says:
    April 1, 2020 at 03:01

    Ed spoof Wuhan flu vaccine Flik, one minute
    https://vimeo.com/395094844

  8. Michael in Nelson says:
    April 1, 2020 at 22:01

    Like I have said before, the lack of reliable data in the reporting and decision making on the current disease panic is indistinguishable from what has happened with the climate change debacle. The inability of journalists to ask the correct questions has been the greatest failing of the news media and allowed the most horrific and costly overreaction to be imposed on the public by governments.

    • Darin says:
      April 2, 2020 at 01:51

      We had “researchers from East Anglia University” that gave us the wildly inaccurate projections based on computer models, surrounding the spread of the virus.

      Those same “researchers” are also trying to downplay the theory that the virus got out of China much earlier than is being reported.

      Those same “researchers from East Anglia University” were also responsible for the wildly inaccurate computer model projections of climate change, that were later included in the infamous IPCC report aka the Warmanista Bible.

      I think once the travel bans have been lifted, we need to organize a global conference on climate change to be held at East Anglia University. Once they are all there, nuke the place from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cool.gif

    • Pascal says:
      April 2, 2020 at 03:16

      Sadly, when trying to make such clear connections with the indoctrinated I find myself hoping to awake to find the blank stares are only a bad dream.

      As for journalists, Mustang, a commenter at Ed’s blog, related what I will show below so we might understand what has become of journalism (hard to believe that profession ever had very far to fall, but I digress).

      My son has a degree in journalism. I tried to talk him out of it, but he’s a terrific writer and besides that, he knows better than I do. In my argument, I offered the fact that in the US, there are more than 400 schools that offer degrees in journalism, and if there were 100 students graduating with journalism degrees every year, that would mean that he would compete with 40,000 other people nationwide for a position in his field of study. And, I said, this probably explains why entry-level positions in journalism are so low and why it is near impossible to find work in that field. Obviously, as I said, it was a very poor argument on my part. In any case, he has a degree in journalism and now works for a major pharmacy chain.

      So, you have lots of people with journalism degrees who realize early on that if they want to keep working in that field, they pretty much have to do what their editors tell them; they have to write articles with a peculiar slant. They either give the editor what he or she wants, or they start looking for work elsewhere. What this means to me is that there is NO integrity in the field. It’s more about exchanging income for personal and professional integrity. Just so that we understand, my son was told that (1) no good reporter will wear a US flag pin on his or her lapel, and (2) a good reporter will always represent the interests of the people, which is the mantra of the Democratic Party.

      A few “freelance” writers have made it, but not many. Worse, individuals who have degrees in journalism know very little about history, sociology, international relations, or political science. They are, in effect, out of their depth. I occasionally watch the White House pressers. The questions are ludicrous. These young journalists, for the lack of a better word, do not even know enough about the world around them to ask a cogent question of the President or his press secretary. It tells you that college educated men and women with specialist degrees (beyond arts and letters) are among the least educated people in our society today. Morons, who do not even realize that they are used as pawns to achieve a decidedly anti-American agenda.

  9. pb says:
    April 2, 2020 at 11:14

    China back on lockdown. No debt gorged economy will survive 5+ months of shutdown. Reuters (via fake news you can trust: ZeroH)

    https://news.trust.org/item/20200401151444-l11ny/

    The debt has to go.

    What about the AirBNB people with 5 houses on payola leveraged. Even if the debt goes, the tourism will take years to recover, if ever.

  11. Pascal says:
    April 2, 2020 at 15:43

    Germans ought to know.

    German constitutional law experts are raising the alarm for „serious encroachments on fundamental rights“. Constitutional law expert Hans Michael Heinig warns that the „democratic constitutional state could turn into a fascist-hysterical hygiene state in no time“. Professor Christoph Möllers of Berlin’s Humboldt University explains that the infection protection law „cannot serve as a basis for such far-reaching restrictions of citizens‘ rights of freedom“. According to the former president of the German Federal Constitutional Court, Hans Jürgen Papier, „emergency measures do not justify the suspension of civil liberties in favour of an authoritarian and surveillance state“.

    Found at the next to last bullet point in the April 1, 2020 update here:
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

  12. Diamond Mair says:
    April 5, 2020 at 14:35

    Made the point to my daughter that, not THAT long ago, cell phones were the domain of “the 1%” . The rest of us relied on pay phones. I recall having to use a few that were utterly disgusting – thank GOD, I was then able to get away from them & into fresh air & sunshine. My point is, “we” were exposed to various bugs, thereby building our collective immunity. I’m seriously thinking “we” need exposure to more “ick”, to rebuild our bodies’ protective systems.
    Semper Fi’
    DM