Perhaps the ship was out of lipstick, too.

Posted on December 14, 2011 by KG

‘Navy lieutenant killed herself aboard warship after senior officer called her ‘sweetheart’
How to destroy a once-great Service. Unless, of course, female officers would  face rockets and missiles with greater equanimity than they do  terms of endearment…

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21 Responses to Perhaps the ship was out of lipstick, too.

  1. Andrei says:
    December 14, 2011 at 10:24

    I tell you KG my friend, there is a whole dynamic between genders, between men and women that is inbuilt and natural and for some bizarre reason the progressives have seen fit to try and change it, usually by hammering square pegs into round holes.

    It ends in tears every time.

  2. KG says:
    December 14, 2011 at 10:33

    It’s the old, old “progressive” Utopian delusion, Andrei–that human nature can be changed in order to fit in with their worldview.
    And they’ve murdered millions in their attempts to achieve it.
    That some clown in the politburo thinks he can overturn millions of years of evolution by issuing diktats would be amusing, if not so lethal.

  3. Kirly says:
    December 14, 2011 at 11:22

    that’s a pretty fragile person who kills herself over being called sweetheart. odd. someone called me honey yesterday in a work meeting of all men and me. it wasn’t in an offensive way. it was in the exact same way that he calls all the men buddy. in fact, he’s called me buddy too. for his own sake though he shouldn’t do it… some lunatic would have him up on harrassment charges. i, of course, am not a lunatic so i just asked him to call me my given name and went on with the business at hand. i believe my new nickname at work now though is indeed honey.

    • KG says:
      December 14, 2011 at 11:30

      Kirls! Good to see you. :smile:
      May you and yours have a very fine Christmas. And I like your new work nick. :twisted:

  4. WAKE UP says:
    December 14, 2011 at 12:34

    “Lt Hellawell had been given a six-month supply of medication before HMS Edinburgh set sail on a seven-month deployment from Portsmouth on May 25.”

    I’d say this had nothing to do with “sweetheart” and everything to do with the fact that she shouldn;t have been on the ship in the first place.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073705/Navy-Lieutenant-Sara-Elizabeth-Hellawell-26-killed-senior-officer-called-sweetheart.html

  5. Diamond Mair says:
    December 14, 2011 at 12:58

    Gotta go with Wakey on this one, KG – she should NEVER have been allowed in the Navy ………………………….. good grief, while in the USMC, I was called “M & M”, “M-Squared”, “Maggie the Cat”, among others …………………………. I’m now “Diamond Mair” to many, and ‘that old bitch-on-wheels’ to some :razz: ……………………………. does the British Navy have no basic psych evaluations they do before commissioning/enlisting people? The “Lt” should NEVER have been put in that kind of environment – she obviously couldn’t handle it …………………………..

    Semper Fi’
    DM
    Oh, BTW, got let go from the job, as I didn’t “fit the corporate image” of the jewelry store where employed – the FodGuy says it’s age {got let go last Monday, turned 55 Thursday}, but I’m thinking it’s lack of melanin ……………………………. :shock:

  6. KG says:
    December 14, 2011 at 13:11

    Sorry to hear about the job, DM. :sad: The age thing is bloody infuriating, especially when you look at the levels of literacy and the work ethic of some of the young clowns they employ…..
    As for women on board fighting ships..my opinion is NO!!!
    Like it or not, there are basic differences in outlook between men and women, differences shaped by evolution and age-old customs. I do not believe there is a female Beatty or Nelson or Cunningham waiting in the wings of the Royal Navy. I don’t believe a female would say “damn the torpedoes” and I certainly can’t see one hoisting a battle pennant and charging heavy cruisers with a destroyer.
    Prudence and cool consideration of the odds have their place. But so does almost suicidal valour in the face of overwhelming odds and I would never go to war under the command of a woman.
    If that makes me a dinosaur, so be it. :grin:

  7. K2 says:
    December 14, 2011 at 14:43

    “How can they expect us to fight the enemy if they won’t protect us from sexual harassment?”

    • The Gantt Guy says:
      December 14, 2011 at 14:47

      So the ragheads can throw down their guns and IEDs, and instead just start yelling “Come here, sweetheart, and sit on Muhammad’s knee!”

      :razz:

  9. KG says:
    December 14, 2011 at 15:29

    Fred says it better, as usual. Thanks for the links Bodger.
    “..But weak women will get men killed in war. I’ve seen wars. I’ve been on casualty wards. So have a lot of men. For us, war isn’t abstract, and getting men killed to appease feminists isn’t cute.”
    Exactly. And that’s talking only about the simple physical constraints.

    • WAKE UP says:
      December 15, 2011 at 10:07

      “getting men killed to appease feminists isn’t cute. ”

      No, but it’s what some of them want. :mrgreen:

  10. Andrei says:
    December 14, 2011 at 15:56

    The thing to remember about all of this is the people who are pushing these agendas Gays in the military, women in the infantry etc actually hate the military – its discipline, its honor and so forth.

    And when the fruits of their policies ripen they go into denial

    But from the top of my head

    Pfc. Bradley Manning
    Major Nidal Hasan
    The British Navies humiliation at the hands of the Iranians
    Srebrenica and the Dutch humiliation
    Jessica Lynch and Lori Piestewa
    Tailhook scandal

    Theres more a lot more

  11. Col. Bunny says:
    December 14, 2011 at 19:04

    I had a pleasant exchange one time with an author of excellent novels about the modern U.S. Navy. IIRC, he has a daughter and is very keen on women serving in subs. Afterwards I read another of his books involving subs and it had a female officer as one of the characters. She and another officer had a sexual encounter underway.

    I wonder if he appreciated the irony of depicting the exact problem with mixed sexes on warships. Small ones certainly.

    Clearly this poor woman had serious problems prior to deployment and her suicide is just sad. Servicemen also commit suicide. A lot more going on that being called “sweetheart.”

    I’m a lot less hostile to women in support units even if it takes them near hostile action. However, a TV story of four or five women arriving to advise Pushtu (?) women on health issues was just odd. With their helmets, BDUs, and M-16s they might just as well have dressed as clowns. I just couldn’t see it. Having those women out alone and, more to the point, acting wildly out of synch with local customs, pathetic though they may be. I just can’t believe they would have done well had they gotten into trouble.

    I remain willing to be persuaded otherwise but the argument needs to be better than “we’ve just been held back all these years.”

  12. KG says:
    December 14, 2011 at 19:11

    The “beat to quarters” order of Nelson’s navy has a whole new meaning….

  13. Robertvdl says:
    December 14, 2011 at 20:03

    Saudi Arabia Beheads Woman For Sorcery

    based on the law

    http://youtu.be/ULzM5nJ-0zE

  14. WAKE UP says:
    December 15, 2011 at 10:02

    One more time: Men fight. Women are what they fight for.