Religious bigotry:

Posted on January 19, 2012 by KG

Thanks to Medusa for this.

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46 Responses to Religious bigotry:

  1. kowtow says:
    January 19, 2012 at 14:46

    Because one is western and christian and the other isn’t.
    All part of our leftist hate and self loathing.

  2. ZenTiger says:
    January 19, 2012 at 14:58

    Recent T-Shirt spotted:

    “Ex-Liberal – I don’t hate Whites, Christians, Jews, the Bible, Police, the military and America anymore”

  3. Katie says:
    January 19, 2012 at 15:50

    Because one will cut off your head and the other won’t.

  4. Cadwallader says:
    January 19, 2012 at 17:30

    To my mind, both choices are superfluous but I take the point of the hypocrisy which favours the stone-age hate-merchants from the Middle East.

  5. medusa says:
    January 19, 2012 at 17:34

    BTW, I am not a religious nut but am sick to death of the pandering to these savages who intend to destroy western civilisation as we know it .

  6. KG says:
    January 19, 2012 at 17:37

    Same here, Medusa.

  7. Robertvdl says:
    January 19, 2012 at 21:30

    I think both are wrong. They are talking to the same God asking him to be on their side. As a father I would tell them not to fight but to work together. Why do we want to be better ,faster ,stronger, as an other person? As a young kid my son played basketball. If you hear the disgusting words that come out of the mouths of Catholic parents watching their kid, it made me feel sick. Why has your kid more right to win? Why should God be on his/her side?And what counts for sport counts for everything.
    Why do so many people need the smell of blood ? Listen to the people that have been in a war they will tell you what is hell.

    is this sport ?
    http://youtu.be/NkS9QNhfYLk
    last night game Madrid -Barcelona

    • Richard says:
      January 20, 2012 at 19:34

      They are talking to the same God asking him to be on their side.

      I disagree. It’s not the same God, much as they’d have us believe. That’s another wishful-thinking nonsense construct from a bunch of idiots who believe you can talk out your differences*. “Allahu Akhbar” doesn’t mean “God is great”; it literally means “Allah is greater” (implicitly saying that there are other gods and they are not Allah).

      * Those idiots, like Obama, would get rid of the military but wouldn’t ever dream of getting rid of the Courts, which prove the same thing – it is *not* always possible to solve your differences through yapping at each other.

      • KG says:
        January 20, 2012 at 19:41

        Quite so.

      • Kris K says:
        January 21, 2012 at 06:55

        “It’s not the same God”

        Exactly right, Richard.
        I think the pope claiming that Allah and the God of the Bible are one and the same has confused many who hang on his every word. Images of him kissing the Koran also promote this false, unbiblical and satanic notion.

        Of course the Koran makes it clear that “Allah has no son”, and therefore, on this count alone, Allah is disqualified from being the biblical God.

        Try replacing “Allah” for “God” in the following verses and tell me I’m wrong:

        Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
        Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
        Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

        The above is anathema to Muslims.

  8. KG says:
    January 19, 2012 at 21:43

    “Why do we want to be better ,faster ,stronger, as an other person? ”
    Err…because we’re humans!
    Competitiveness is in our genes, if we’re normal, healthy people, and without it you wouldn’t have fast, cheap air travel, advanced computers or any of the other things you enjoy. The very keyboard you’re typing on is the direct result of the instinct to compete.
    The idea of a non-competitive society without winners and losers is a deeply regressive leftist construct.
    And – by the way – I regard using the link you provided in order to make your point a particularly stupid tactic.That particular game is not representative of sport and competitiveness.

    • Robertvdl says:
      January 19, 2012 at 23:55

      “‘Err…because we’re humans!”

      No because we are animals. The animal needs it so only the best mate. The moment your not Competitive any more you’re eliminated or expelled. You would do that to your wife if she got in a wheelchair. My wife has not left me after I had surgery because of a cancer and lost part of my tongue and have trouble speaking and eating. THAT is because we’re humans!
      The wheel was not invented to go to war but to make things easier. In a competitive society there are no losers we all benefit we all are winners. You can’t play football without an other team. As soon as there are losers you talk about a regressive leftist construct society .
      Otherwise Jesus was a communist. for him there were no losers.

      • KG says:
        January 20, 2012 at 19:43

        Meaningless, confused babble, Robert.

      • Kris K says:
        January 21, 2012 at 06:40

        “for him [Jesus] there were no losers.”

        You are joking, right Robert?!

        Christ’s own words:

        Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
        Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
        Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
        Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

        Sounds to me like the ULTIMATE case of having lost something; something you thought you had [salvation], but never did in the first place [having based your salvation on works].
        You do realise why Christ taught more about hell than heaven, Robert?! Those that end up in hell will suffer the ultimate of losses; and Christ’s desire was/is that NONE would go there.

  9. KG says:
    January 19, 2012 at 21:55

    “Listen to the people that have been in a war they will tell you what is hell.”
    Yes, it’s hell. It’s also sometimes necessary and sometimes noble and it brought you freedom.

    • Robertvdl says:
      January 19, 2012 at 22:12

      The people that starts wars are not the little people . We just fight these wars and get killed in these wars. For the little people war is not noble and it certainly doesn’t bring us freedom. It just gives us the illusion of freedom. The winners are those in power who have dinner together after killing millions of us ‘the little people’.

      • KG says:
        January 19, 2012 at 22:37

        Sigh……I’d love to live in that simple world.
        So—all those “little people” who invaded the countries of Europe were doing the bidding of their masters, sure. And your answer to that is…what? Sit back and let it happen? A few million Jews and Gypsies and homosexuals and intellectuals and artists might see it a little differently, were they able to speak. They just might see war as a damn sight more noble than the gas oven or the burial pit.
        And you’ve enjoyed that “illusion of freedom” brought to you in Europe by those brave men who stormed ashore at Normandy for a fucking long time now.
        The fact that you lot (and us, to a lesser extent) have pissed that up against the wall since, in no way diminishes what those men did.
        If I sound a little irritated, then that’s because a European pontificating about war and competitiveness has something of a farcical note to it.
        Europeans have rolled over to the first totalitarian regime that popped it’s ugly head up. The EUSSR. You’ve done it willingly, out of laziness and fear and indifference and greed. You thought the magical gravy train would absolve you of the need to be men and absolve you of any kind of responsibility for raising the next generations who would fight to keep the gift of freedom.
        And now it’s all going to hell in a handbasket you’ll turn on one another once again like a pack of rabid ferrets and guess what? This time there will be nobody willing to come to your aid.
        We’re tired of being lectured by sophisticated, superior Europeans and perhaps next time we might just watch you stew in your own juice and enjoy the spectacle.
        /rant
        It’s late and I’m tired.

        • Robertvdl says:
          January 19, 2012 at 23:51

          I wish you a good night’s rest

          • Darin says:
            January 20, 2012 at 00:33

            “I think both are wrong. They are talking to the same God asking him to be on their side”

            Robert,with all due respect I have to say Stop it!

            They are most assuredly NOT talking to the same God.The Judeo Christian God has nothing whatsoever to do with the broken down lying fraud Mohammad and his counterfeit religion/political cult.Just because Islam makes a hijack attempt on Judeo/Christian heritage doesn’t mean they have anything in common with the death cult of Islam and the two should never be confused,the differences are simply too striking.

            • Cadwallader says:
              January 20, 2012 at 03:18

              It seems to me that all sides in a war believe they are doing “God’s work” or performing “his will.” They aren’t of course; it is the orders of politicians who they are answerable to. The belief in metaphysics does not justify any war, the pursuit of personal freedom does.

    • Seneca III says:
      January 20, 2012 at 01:30

      Precisely.

  10. Robertvdl says:
    January 20, 2012 at 01:33

    Darin

    I never said i am in fever of islam. Or put it like this I think it is one of the worst things ever happend to human civilization. I think you should know that by now.
    They think they are better than we are what gives them the right to kill us. And we think we are better and therefor we can kill them. Where is the difference? This is not what Jesus taught us. Christianity did not conquer the Roman world by the sword, but by giving a better option. So why a good Christian wants to be Roman again?

  11. Ciaron says:
    January 20, 2012 at 05:13

    And we think we are better and therefor we can kill them.

    I think this is incorrect. We kill them not because of any superiority complex, but rather because despite the best efforts of some, it is not in the western nature to capitulate.

  12. mara says:
    January 20, 2012 at 05:49

    How very tempting is the thought that if politicians and generals saw imminent invasion, declared war and nobody turned up to fight? No war, no death, no terrible suffering. Very. Wouldn’t it be nice. Both sides decide that it would be much better to give the other “a better option” than to prevail by force. For myself, I still put food for Santa’s reindeer on the back lawn every Christmas and believe that the tooth fairy travels about with a little sack of coins to pay for kiddies teeth. You might think this is the triumph of hope over experience, but I BELIEVE. Kumbaya.

    • KG says:
      January 20, 2012 at 06:09

      :smile: You got it, Mara.
      Some people simply don’t understand that war is the normal state of affairs for mankind. Periods of peace are rare and short-lived. The “killer ape” is what we are, a territorial animal, and nothing– not a damn thing– will change that.
      Which is just as well.
      Endless peace would destroy our species, I believe.

      • pompuss says:
        January 21, 2012 at 06:45

        “Endless peace would destroy our species, I believe.”

        I’m not so sure about this KG. Whilst I agree that humans are basically territorial animals I suspect that like other animals they are able to be domesticated. Even the average placid sun snoozing lazybones household cat is a killer-in-waiting but so long as they are left in peace (and fed regularly) that latent aggression will stay hidden. It’s probably the same with people.

  13. Ciaron says:
    January 20, 2012 at 06:18

    You must be a troll.
    (Response to a comment by Robert, since removed. kg)

    • KG says:
      January 20, 2012 at 06:43

      And he’s gone. At the very least the endless posting of links instead of responding to the argument is an abuse of hospitality.

  14. pompuss says:
    January 21, 2012 at 06:35

    Humans can send probes out into space, build machines which measure the speed of light, perform extraordinarily complex surgery……but scratch their emotions and they are animals.

  15. KG says:
    January 21, 2012 at 08:41

    Of course we’re animals. The most intelligent and adaptable, but animals nonetheless. I believe any other view is vanity.

    • Kris K says:
      January 21, 2012 at 09:28

      Have to disagree, KG – and it has nothing to do with vanity.

      No animal, or angel for that matter, was created in the image of its Creator – only Man has that privileged position. When Christ was incarnated into flesh it was as a man; and when He died it was for the sins of men.

      Additionally, what separates man from the animal kingdom is our moral conscience; our value system. Animals do not have a moral code by which they live, and neither can they sin – animals have no sense of right or wrong; Man alone is unique in this sense.

      Also, only man has an eternal soul; animals do not. And neither will animals be resurrected from the dead as will man – either to eternal life or to eternal condemnation.

  16. KG says:
    January 21, 2012 at 09:59

    Well, that all depends if you’re a believer or not, doesn’t it? And possession of a moral system doesn’t mean we’re not animals–it just means that we’re the only animal with a moral system. That we know of. ;-)

    • Kris K says:
      January 21, 2012 at 11:14

      I think the MAIN problem with humanity is that many DO believe they are no better than animals – and on that basis use this Darwinian perspective to justify and excuse all manner of evil behaviour and how they treat others.

      Of course no amimal is ever as evil as are some people, but then neither are they as good and pure of motive as are other people.

      I guess when you boil it all down, KG, I have to accept God’s persepctive on the issue; my Maker will always have a better perspective than will those who are made ;)

  17. KG says:
    January 21, 2012 at 11:31

    ‘..to justify and excuse all manner of evil behaviour and how they treat others.”
    Those people are dishonest or idiots-no other animal is ever intentionally evil. That’s reserved for humans, as far as I know.
    I regard myself as an animal, albeit one with a conscience and a moral system and I don’t see that as being in conflict with belief in a Creator.

    • Kris K says:
      January 21, 2012 at 14:35

      “no other animal is ever intentionally evil.”

      Exactly my point; man chooses to be good or evil, animals have no such choice. And I think it is more complex than whether or not they are simply “dishonest or idiots” – for example I don’t think Hitler, Stalin et al were necessarily either of these things, but there is no doubt that the ideologies [Communism and Fascism are founded upon Darwinism] they embraced were clearly evil.

      And following is my primary authority which highlighs Man as distinct from the rest of the animal kingdom:

      Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
      Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
      Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
      Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
      Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
      Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
      Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
      Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

      Summary:
      Man alone is made in God’s image [no animal is].
      Man alone is given dominion over ALL other creatures and the earth itself [no animal is].
      Man is God’s crowning creation – he was made last and he only was created to have fellowship with his Creator. And as I said above; Man is [able to be] redeemed back to his Creator through the Creator Himself becoming a man and dieing in his stead for sin – once again, no animal is this privileged.

      Man is above, distinct from, and superior to the animal kingdom, just as his eternal future is [potentially through Christ] superior to that of animals.

      To regard ourselves as “just another animal” is to sell ourselves short, and is not in accordance with how our Creator views us.

  18. KG says:
    January 21, 2012 at 16:20

    Kris, your authority is only an authority for those who believe in God and the Bible, and I’ve neither the inclination nor the knowledge to indulge in a theological discussion.
    I sure don’t believe that regarding ourselves as an animal is to sell ourselves short. (note I didn’t use the words “just another”–I have too much respect for animals to do that). And an animal with a conscience and moral system is no trivial thing, in my view.

    • Kris K says:
      January 21, 2012 at 16:53

      Fair enough, KG – I can only give my opinion and make clear upon what authority I base that opinion. Others are obviously free to accept or reject both my opinion and that authority.

      When I stated “just another animal” it was more to highlight those who buy into Darwinian theory and their view that animals and humans are essentially “all just animals”. It was not to imply animals are worth any less, but rather that by equating humanity to the same level as animals we in fact devalue humanity.

      And my view that humans are superior to animals in no way implies I respect animals any less than perhaps you do. Of course I’m quite happy eating dead animal flesh. But while some animals will eat their own “kind”, I don’t think I’ll be adding ‘long pork’ to the menu any time soon.

      PS What authority do you use as a basis for your belief that mankind is part of animal-kind?

  19. KG says:
    January 21, 2012 at 17:42

    “What authority do you use as a basis for your belief that mankind is part of animal-kind?”
    No authority at all, Kris. Just a personal belief. :smile:

    • Kris K says:
      January 22, 2012 at 06:53

      Fair enough, KG – I’m all for “personal belief”, as you well know, I just thought you may have had additional reasons.