Open house

“Racist data”??

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45 Responses to Open house

  1. Oswald bastable says:

    When they play the race card, you can bet the data is spot on.

    • KG says:

      Damn right.

      • Darin says:

        Given the same buy up has been going on over here,especially on the left coast I think now that it’s not an invasion,but rather a panic currency dump.

        http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/DavidStockman/David-Stockman-China-bubble-economy/2015/07/10/id/654409/

        The bullseye paragraph in the article is this one IMO-

        “That millions of Chinese citizens are being annihilated financially is hardly surprising. After all, the $3.5 trillion lost in the four weeks since the June 12 peak was pure casino wealth. It didn’t even exist as recently as March 17.”

        That tells me this is a cash dump,with Chinese scrambling to buy any solid assets they can get their hands on before the Quan goes POOF!

        • KG says:

          In NZ, there’s now a knock-on effect in the regions outside Auckland as Kiwis are being priced out of the market.
          Whoever this massive inflow of hot Chinese money is benefiting, it sure ain’t the ordinary Kiwi worker.

          • Oswald bastable says:

            We are getting the knock-on here, as cashed up aucklanders buy up. Sell in Auckland, take early retirement, buy a really nice house in whangarei and still have a big chunk of cash in the bank. Glad I got in when I did…

          • Darin says:

            It never is,us in the working class don’t have any pull as individuals since we simply don’t have enough money.Life has gotten better for us over the centuries,but any power we have has only increased modestly if at all.The only thing we had was the vote,but now that is gone.

            The million dollar question is,in the market who is now holding all that Chinese funny money they just spent?

  2. Cadwallader says:

    This “data” seems to have been based on whether or not a surname sounds Chinese..no distinction between Koreans, Vietnamese etc… I think this represents the vile face of xenophobia. There is no suggestion whether those with Chinese names are recent arrivals or defendants from 1850s arrivals, there’s no accounting whether the buyers live and work here or not etc..If the Chinese all changed their names to Smith this shallow set of aspersions would flounder completely. Tacky journalism applied to a serious topic.

    • KG says:

      I disagree. Even an assclown can differentiate between Chinese and Vietnamese names.
      And the effect of Chinese money on the housing market is in any case indisputable.
      The “xenophobia” smear is no better than the “racist” smear – and no more respectable for having more syllables.

      • Cadwallader says:

        Well, the NZ Herald can’t differentiate. What effects do Chinese $$$ have on the NZ housing market? I am not sure that Chinese buyers ignited the current flame of speculation…rather they contributed through a desire to invest here after the initial shortages began to hydraulic the prices. If there is a single culprit for the rise in prices (if it is accepted it is an undesirable thing) then it is the Auckland City Council with its reluctance to deal with planning from a human perspective rather than from an exclusively enviro perspective….we’ll never be as important as snails and Maori voodoo legends! The NZ Herald article begins and ends with a slant that Chinese buying homes here (regardless of individual circumstances) is not a good thing. If all the Chinese withdrew from the market, I can guess what would happen!

        • KG says:

          If all the Chimes investors not resident were to withdraw from the market, then prices would at least adjust themselves to a more realistic level.
          And yes, I agree with you about the Council’s idiot policies.

          • Cadwallader says:

            The tacky (read: lazy) side of the article is that the resident/non-resident distinction hasn’t been made. In 1880s Timaru the local council created a by-law forbidding Chinese businessmen from running businesses in the main street unless they adopted Anglo surnames…ever since in Timaru there has been a clan of Chinese “Guthrie.” (They are active in the Highland Pipe band too!)

            • KG says:

              :mrgreen:
              But I should point out that they weren’t coming from a Communist country… http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_wink.gif

              • Darin says:

                “If all the Chimes investors not resident were to withdraw from the market, then prices would at least adjust themselves to a more realistic level.”

                One would think so,but that’s not what happened here.If a bubble is created and it grows and pops it’s very possible that those who are underwater on their home loans lose them and the houses sit vacant with over-inflated prices on them.

                • KG says:

                  Sure, but the adjustment has to come sooner or later, especially if new and affordable stock comes on to the market.

                • Wombat says:

                  Personally, eight years ago I looked at the market and the concept of a full time job to pay off a 25 year loan as utter stupidity. I couldn’t fathom why anyone else would accept those terms, much less be happy about it.
                  So I looked at other options.
                  What’s that? I can buy 50 acres in Tasmania for a pittance and stick a mobile home on it? Privacy? Fresh air? Financial independence? Yes please!

                  Now all the guys I used to know are trapped in zombie mortgages with wives who are determined to go down with the ship, and all of them wish they were me.

            • The Gantt Guy says:

              I’ve never seen an adequate definition of “non resident”. I think I’ve relayed the story here previously of a young Chinese woman I used to work with. She was a permanent resident here, and well on the way to citizenship. Her parents have only once set foot on NZ soil – to visit their daughter for 2 weeks. The parents decided Auckland’s property market is a good hiding place for soon-to-be-useless Quan, and so wanted to buy property here.

              End result? The permanent resident daughter now has a property portfolio somewhere north of $2 million. She may well be the legal owner, but the parents remain the beneficial owner. I’m guessing at least in this scenario, it’s the good old kiwi taxpayer making up the daughter’s negative gearing losses.

              • KG says:

                Headline in The Australian:
                ‘About 4000 new homes bought by Chinese-based investors over the past two years are mostly empty.’

    • Darin says:

      I can make two points on this subject-

      First what the open borders advocates fail to see(or maybe they do see and don’t care) is that typically these people originate from countries where the rule of law and property rights don’t exist.Land holdings are owned by the government or by the tribe and the individual subscribes or not to whatever social mores are present in their local group.

      Those cultures are vastly inferior to western culture and completely incompatible.The old adage about how one can add all the water one wants to a bucket of s— and it will still be s—,but just one drop of s— in a bucket of water and it will no longer be water holds true.

      Importing third world random garbage only reduces the quality of our culture and does nothing to improve theirs.If these open minded bleeding hearts wanted to do something to improve the lot of those countries,the best thing to do would be to insist they adopt a Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      Second,I finally got one to admit they were wrong and change their mind on immigration.The argument started with them asking me what we should do with all the illegals here already.I stated simply send them home.

      I got the predictable response”but what about the ones who have been here for years?” So I asked them,suppose you are sleeping in your home and you wake up to find out that some strange person is in your home,eating your food,taking your medicine and raping your daughter.You tell them to leave,but they say “oh no,I can’t go,I’ve been here for two weeks” what would you do?

      Surprisingly I saw a lightbulb come on and they admitted I was right.So that’s 1 down and 150 million to go http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_sad.gif

      • KG says:

        “Importing third world random garbage only reduces the quality of our culture and does nothing to improve theirs.”
        Exactly. http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yes.gifhttp://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yes.gif

        • Wombat says:

          I cling to your use of the term “random’ there, friend.

          My wife and her parents came here twenty years ago as skilled labourers fleeing civil strife. All raised Catholic. No criminal records. They have all been exemplary Australians, and well above the mean.

          I understand that a nation cannot be run on individual experiences but I am am understandably wary of any political movement which centralises around homogeneity.

          Such cultures as are incompatible with ours I make no apologies for, the central body of those being islam. Neither do I have time for other countries shedding their criminal element onto us.

          I can live with “close the borders and deport the troublemakers”, but if it goes any further then that, I would suggest anyone planning on laying a hand on my family better make their first order of business to shoot me in the back whilst I’m unawares, or there will be hell to pay.

          • Darin says:

            I meant no offense Wombat,what I meant by “random”is just that.There is no rhyme or reason to what is being called “immigration” these days.
            We can have open borders or we can have a welfare state,but we can’t have both.
            I tend to get a bit upset when 20 million people who don’t belong in my country walk in illegally.Undercut the price of labor,bring waves of crime and disease,mooch off the systems my tax dollars provide and then have the nerve to hate me and call me a racist if I complain.
            I am tired of my future being stolen right out from under me and my home turned into a third world hell hole all at my expense.
            If a person wants to immigrate here legally,do the hard work it takes to become a citizen,assimilates and goes all in for their new home I say welcome.
            But anyone who comes here,refuses to assimilate and intends to use my country as an ATM machine while going on a life long crime spree then I say GTFO!

    • The Gantt Guy says:

      KG, my main beef with libertarians (at least the one’s I’ve encountered in NZ and OZ) is that their definition of “freedom” always comes down to The Three Pillars: gay sex/marriage, legalising drugs and opening the borders. They have no interest in anything outside those 3 arguments.

      Most have a completely different definition of “liberty” from you and I, and almost without exception their heads explode when I tell them that only a moral man can handle freedom.

      • KG says:

        “..and almost without exception their heads explode when I tell them that only a moral man can handle freedom.”
        YES! And that’s always the best indicator of how the clowns define “liberty”.

    • KG says:

      Oh joy! http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_sad.gif
      ‘..Zharkova and her colleagues derived their model using a technique called ‘principal component analysis’ of the magnetic field observations from the Wilcox Solar Observatory in California.

      They examined three solar cycles-worth of magnetic field activity, covering the period from 1976-2008.

      In addition, they compared their predictions to average sunspot numbers, another strong marker of solar activity.

      All the predictions and observations were closely matched…’

      I wonder what Fat Al has to say?

      • Darin says:

        I think we are definitely on the down slope of this solar maximum.Big Al like a lot of folks will find out his solar panels just won’t be enough.

  3. KG says:

    ‘Tens of thousands mark 20 years of the Srebrenica massacre’
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11479439

    Yaaawn…….what’s the big deal? Muslims have been doing exactly that for centuries. http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_unsure.gif

    • Darin says:

      Clinton was a fool to get us involved in that one,and no one ever asked him why we got involved there,but not Rwanda?Is it because he is racist?

    • Wombat says:

      ‘Tens of thousands mark significant military loss in their war for a global caliphate.’

      Or in other words, “take an inch every day and cry foul when the enemy pushes you back a yard.”

      • KG says:

        Exactly. It’s the way the bastards operate. Researching that war, I’m struck by how seldom the word “Muslim” was used in media reports.
        And of course, no mention of the widespread destruction of Christian churches and ethnic cleansing in the territory these fucking apes hold. :evil:

        • Wombat says:

          Americans talking about Christianity coming to the political block would evoke some bitter laughter in many parts of the world.

          “Welcome to the grand tournament”, would be the response. “We’ve been expecting you for some time now”.

  4. Ronbo says:

    Racist Data, heh?

    A black bird fell dead at my feet yesterday that was no doubt killed by a white racist bird.http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_wacko.gif

  5. Alan says:

    Aucklanders are buying up big time in Tauranga. 10 families a week are moving here
    and the local property market is barely coping. I live in a small suburban street and four houses in the street have been sold to Auckland buyers in the past two weeks. It is not only the Chinese factor, Koreans are also snapping up property in big numbers. There is a large Korean population in this city, marked by two Korean supermarkets.

    • KG says:

      As the author of “The Misguided Advocates of Open Borders” points out Alan. the effect of this is to distort and eventually corrode the social cohesion of the host culture. There is no way it cannot.
      The link to the article is on the sidebar>>>

      • Ronbo says:

        This is the idea of the Socialist International – one giant global community ruled by Big Brother.

        The nation-state is to be banned.

        The various races/cultures/religions are to be mixed together and to be fused into one big socialist utopia.

        On the upside, it looks like English will be the Global Language.

        DOUBLEPLUSGOOD, heh?

  6. Darin says:

    :shock: 1/2 scale Farmall F-14 tractor-

    https://youtu.be/iEwUHCoPWb4

    Also a very nice homebuilt Board Track racer by the same guy-

    https://youtu.be/s39AYkooNYM

  7. Pascal says:

    Simple and to the point on just about every social justice warrior front.
    http://adam4d.com/whos-the-bigot/ ?