The Iron Legion:

19 Responses to The Iron Legion:

1. Jamie says:

   August 22, 2015 at 21:26

   Still got a few years ahead of me with my trade training, sounds like a piece of me, not going all the way to Europe though, f*ck that third world sh**t hole
   • The Gantt Guy says:

     August 23, 2015 at 08:26

     I suspect, come the day, there will be plenty of opportunity for a clean-up crew here in the Democratic People’s Socialist Republic of the Long White Cloud.

     I suspect it’s going to be like dominoes, Once one falls the rest will follow. I also think our main problem is going to be that we’ll have to go all Wolverines! on the ChiCom army.
2. Ronbo says:

   August 22, 2015 at 22:28

   The American version of “Spanish Mission” would be the hi tech “Galt’s Gulch” described in ATLAS SHRUGGED by philosopher-novelist Ayn Rand, where the nation’s most productive, wealthy and intelligent people drop out and disappear into a hidden valley in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado.

   In short order, the USA falls apart without these “Prime Movers” to keep things moving – and America quickly reverts into Middle Ages poverty under a socialist government.

   I think I like the American idea of setting out the coming collapse in comfort rather than the European vision of marching back to the past.
   • KG says:

     August 23, 2015 at 00:15

     I don’t think Galt’s Gulch would ever be a real, practical possibility, Ronbo. Especially in a collapsed society. There will be no high-tech if that happens.
     Going back to the old ways would at least offer survival and the chance to build something better. And freer.
     • Wombat says:

       August 23, 2015 at 00:36

       I’ve taken a great deal of time studying the single homestead rural retreat concept and come to the unpleasant conclusion that it’s a load of stinking bollocks.

       When things get ugly, every rural district is going to become its own immune system, and the white blood cells otherwise known as good-old-boys running in packs of twenty with deer rifles and ghillie suits are going to make short work of any holdouts who want to benefit from the greater defence of the area without contributing to it themselves.

       What the legionnaire says is correct in a sense. The business model may be risky but as long as you don’t make a point of going head to head with the government then, times being what they are, you might be lucky enough to be shunted down the “to do” list.

       Myself? I’m working hard so that I’m in a position to put my hand up when the scum from the city rob one too many farmhouses and the locals go from “neighbourhood watch” to neighbourhood act“.
3. KG says:

   August 23, 2015 at 00:22

   From two comments under the Iron Legion post:
   “Small, insular, tribal communities are what sustained us in the past, and I believe they are the way of the future.”
   and:
   “and I am sure there are more of us than we can imagine… wandering and waiting and looking for a place where they belong.”

   I reckon both are true.
   • Wombat says:

     August 23, 2015 at 00:48

     There are no safe bets.

     A small, insular community is a decent wager if it’s far enough away from a major city to avoid both bureaucratic interference and potential SHTF refugee tsunamis.

     At the end of the day, though, Twain was right when he said ““A man cannot be comfortable without his own approval.” He also said “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”

     Genuine survivalists miss the point. Merely surviving is not living in any meaningful sense of the word.

     Better to die shoulder to shoulder with your kinsmen than die of old age in your mountain cave while half way through your eleven thousandth MRE.
     • KG says:

       August 23, 2015 at 19:43

       “Better to die shoulder to shoulder with your kinsmen than die of old age in your mountain cave while half way through your eleven thousandth MRE.”
       True. But that’s not what this project is about. Not at all.
       And anybody looking for a “safe bet” is going to fail anyway. The time for safe bets is over.
       • Wombat says:

         August 23, 2015 at 20:08

         The house always wins
         • Darin says:

           August 24, 2015 at 03:57

           This has come up in discussions among friends a lot in recent years.One strategy is to take jobs in local and state government,climb the ladder and then do what we want.Having the keys to the gates when the time comes will make things a bit easier.
           • The Gantt Guy says:

             August 24, 2015 at 07:47

             The challenge is that you’ll need to adopt the “sleeper cell” mentality. You’d need to pretend to be a lib – all multi-culti diversity, abort all the babies that aren’t anchors – for as many years as it would take to get to a position of sufficient authority. Then, you’d need to continue the charade until That Day dawns.

             Do you really think you could do that? And do it for as long as it would take? With the distinct possibility that That Day may not dawn during your working lifetime, effectively rendering your presence there of no use to the cause (unless of course you could surreptitiously plant a few little time-bombs as a parting shot)?
             • KG says:

               August 24, 2015 at 09:10

               Not an option, is it? The West needs saving now, before it’s changed beyond recognition.
               The damage done while waiting for change from the inside to come about would be irreversible by then.
               • The Gantt Guy says:

                 August 24, 2015 at 09:19

                 IMHO, the time for that strategy was 30 years ago – around 20 years after the Cultural Marxists had started taking over the institutions.

                 Now, they are so entrenched there’s no way to excise them without destroying the host.

                 The only option now is to ensure they have the most limited impact possible on our lives. We need to take names and keep score, and ensure a swift and vicious revenge when That Day dawns.
               • Wombat says:

                 August 24, 2015 at 10:09

                 I agree. Attempting to retake old institutions is a waste of time. We played by the rules in allowing the diversity to hold the keys to civilisation. You think they’re ever going allow another office space to have a 51% attendance of white males again?
4. Brown says:

   August 23, 2015 at 19:23

   Australia had these type of communities in the past (Quadrant did an article on them) and they eventually failed. Communes are fraught with danger from disfunctional but charismatic idiots so maybe its better to live in the real world and change it. Still, I like the idea. The early Christian churches didn’t form communes but the church members did support each other. I understand that mutual support was for the flock, not hangers on – it was not social welfare.
   • Wombat says:

     August 23, 2015 at 20:06

     “…maybe its better to live in the real world and change it.”

     It’s already being changed, and the results are going to be catastrophic.

     Things rarely (if ever) get better by nations straightening up and flying right. Spring leads to summer leads to autumn leads to winter. So it is with societies as well as seasons. By my take we’re heading into the end of autumn, and this winter is going to be one to remember.
5. KG says:

   August 23, 2015 at 19:49

   Consider the “Monks of War”, the great Knights Templar orders. What Simon is talking about is something similar.
   And those gentlemen certainly did not merely survive in their fortresses. They waged war on the enemies of Christianity, very often with startling success against huge odds.
   I can recommend Desmond Seward’s The Monks of War for an insight into the various orders that’s bound to surprise.
   If anybody would like to borrow it, I’ll mail it.
6. Darin says:

   August 24, 2015 at 11:19

   “I agree. Attempting to retake old institutions is a waste of time. We played by the rules in allowing the diversity to hold the keys to civilisation. You think they’re ever going allow another office space to have a 51% attendance of white males again?”

   I think you guys missed my point.I’m not talking about turning these institutions around,I’m talking infiltration and either having direct influence WTSHTF or if the government tries to make a move on the local level they wake up to the fact that suddenly they are missing a bunch of people.Not the paper pushers at city hall,but the pump operators at the water works,cops,firemen etc,you know,the people who actually run the city.
   • KG says:

     August 24, 2015 at 21:16

     You’re right, Darin I did miss the point. My apologies.