FFS!

12 Responses to FFS!

1. Paul Marsden says:

   October 21, 2012 at 18:15

   “The list called in the district court is like the A&E ward in a hospital: you’ve got people coming in, you’ve got multiple decisions. Maybe 100 different cases in a year, all of which involve judicial decisions having to be made on the hop.”

   AND… therein lies the problem. Be it judges who are overworked; be it judges who lack life experiences; be it judges who are completely out of the depth: be it judges who are old and sick and not of clarity of mind; be it of judges who are just plain incompetent; be it of judges who just ran over the cat on the way to work; be it of the judge who just had an argurment with his wife; be it of judges who are corrupt and just plain deceitful. Be it of a judge who just instantly takes a dislike to you. After all, they’re only human too

   The sooner we have panels of judges (and lay people) presiding over high risk/high stake, criminal and commercial cases, the better the law will be served and the better off this county will be.
2. D.T. says:

   October 21, 2012 at 18:59

   The legal profession ( only just before polititians ) is the MOST corrupt profession on the planet.It’s all about money and how much they can extort from the public so they get their client off because they know their client will reaffend so that means more money for them.A case in piont is the release on weekends of another of my daughter’s gang rapists as of this weekend.He will get early release as of January next year after getting ” good behaviour “.Who chimes in for these scum? How many LIES do lawyers spin to get their client off with no worries of any accountability or fear of real justice?
   Before any halfwit lawyer decides to spin BS , don’t bother as I have heard all the lies and legalese before.
   What morals ( or lack there of ) do you have to defend the indefensable?
   D.T.
3. KG says:

   October 21, 2012 at 22:30

   “the decision to let Akshay Anand Chand free was the right one”
   Well, no, it wasn’t. “Guidelines” were allowed to take priority over commonsense and the pleas of the girl who had far more knowledge of the perp than the judge.
   The girl is now dead, and for anybody to claim that the judge did the right thing is obscene.
   The judge will carry on, business as usual, as will the lawyers and politicians responsible. No responsibility for the consequences, no admission of a catastrophic failure.
   Whenever we have actions without consequences, then corruption and incompetence will flourish.
   The bastards should be hanged.
4. Darin says:

   October 22, 2012 at 00:12

   Is the decision there solely that of the judge as to bail or whether the case proceeds to trial?

   In my State here a person accused of murder stands before a Grand Jury made up of 12 citizens and they decide whether or not the defendant is charged and or granted bail.The presiding judge can over rule the Jury,but that is very rare.
   • The Gantt Guy says:

     October 22, 2012 at 04:45

     Not here, Darin. The decision to charge rests with Police. The defence will attempt to get the charges thrown out; the decision rests with a Judge. The decision to bail or not to bail rests with a Judge.

     A further question in the instant case (other that “what is the Judge’s address so the bastard can be tried, convicted and hanged) is: why did the Police not appeal the decision to grant bail?
     • Darin says:

       October 22, 2012 at 11:14

       Then there are numerous holes in that system.It means guilty can easily go free and an innocent can be railroaded by the authorities.Heck it happens here even with all the safe guards we have.
       • The Gantt Guy says:

         October 22, 2012 at 18:15

         Yes but y’see our judges aren’t like yours. Ours are omniscient. They are incorruptible and they never make mistakes.
         • KG says:

           October 22, 2012 at 18:26

           
5. Flashman says:

   October 22, 2012 at 05:24

   These decisions are too complex, dangerous and important to be parked on what passes for the average NZ workaday judge – even the best of whom are of pretty marginal quality.

   If judges want to retain the authority to make this class of call, then they must take *personal responsibility* for any adverse consequences. In this instance, the judge should face criminal charges: an innocent person died because of this judge’s failure to exercise a fundamental duty of care.
6. mistress mara says:

   October 22, 2012 at 09:11

   If it had been a judge’s daughter who was offended against, do you think the murderous scum would have received bail? Exactly!
7. mistress mara says:

   October 22, 2012 at 15:07

   Defence lawyer King said ” The judge is forced to make numerous decisions in a day under pressure. …. maybe 100 different cases in a year, all of which involve judicial decisions having to be made on the hop.” hem… Mr king and co know fully well that surgeons, for example, make thousands , not hundreds of critical decisions every year; I know because I scrubbed for them and saw a few horrors. When they make a lousey decision which results in death or needless disability, there is at least an in-house enquiry. Everybody in the hospital, except the patients, know who the crap surgeons are. Same in Law I think. The senior lawyer in my close family who was offered a judgehood 2 years ago, couldn’t possibly comment publically; he has a living to make but is unaffected and is so cynical of the legal system that after a single malt or two, he tells us what we already know. It’s not about justice or common sense. It’s about law which is often a different thing entirely.
8. KG says:

   October 22, 2012 at 15:32

   “It’s not about justice or common sense. It’s about law which is often a different thing entirely.”
   Precisely.