James Delingpole:

Posted on December 13, 2015 by KG

‘The Only Six Things You Need to Know About the Paris Climate Debacle
Sometime round about now the negotiators at the Paris COP21 climate conference will be thrashing out the final details agreement which will make no measurable difference to “climate change” but will definitely cost all of us a great deal of money.
..In truth, COP is not really about saving the planet. Rather, it’s a massive jobs fair for activists, shyster politicians, bureaucrats, corporate scamsters, and people with otherwise worthless degrees in “sustainability”, “conservation biology”, “ecology”, etc…’

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61 Responses to James Delingpole:

  1. Warren Tooley says:
    December 13, 2015 at 12:59

    This ought to embarass these climate activists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI_OBayhxcQ

    What more is their to say.

  2. mawm says:
    December 13, 2015 at 13:09

    There is only one thing to know about this deal – it is nothing more than a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.

    If Key had the balls he’d be asking for a binding referendum on whether or not NZ should be part of this fraud being foisted upon us and not distracting us with his egotistical flag referendum. Although I don’t have much faith in that the ‘people’ will necessarily make the right decision in either.

  3. Brown says:
    December 13, 2015 at 16:18

    I bet Len Brown was networking like heck to keep a place on the gravy train.

  4. Warren Tooley says:
    December 13, 2015 at 17:38

    And people wonder why their is child poverty in New Zealand. And who speaks up? The Greens, same people who created the problem.

    • The Gantt Guy says:
      December 13, 2015 at 19:27

      There is NO child poverty in New Zealand, other than assorted poverty pimps who gain financially from a gullible public believing there is child poverty.

      • Warren Tooley says:
        December 14, 2015 at 02:03

        I thought the only child poverty that exists, is the children of mothers who leave their husbands, and live on the leftovers called welfare from the taxpayer. Anyhow, the last comment was to make a bit of a twist, that the Greens are the most concerned about child poverty, yet they are the most responsible for poverty.

  5. Allan Speedy says:
    December 13, 2015 at 18:26

    Time to wheel out Madam Guillotine!

  6. rivoniaboy says:
    December 13, 2015 at 20:08

    And from Zero Hedge
    Basically, COP21 was a massive taxpayer-funded boondoggle, in which “leaders” enjoyed all the perks of Paris for two weeks, burned through hundreds of millions in public funding, and created millions of tons in greenhouse gases (what do you think to private jets and government 747s use to fly?) that has achieved absolutely nothing.

    Nonetheless, leaders and the environmental community hailed the United Nations agreement has a historic turning point that has the potential to stave off the worst expected effects of global warming.

    And The UN reports a large round of mutual masturbation…

  7. Magoo says:
    December 13, 2015 at 20:37

    If the government of NZ intends stealing and wasting taxpayer’s money pointlessly then it is the duty of every Kiwi to consider carefully how to prevent the govt getting it’s grubby hands on their money – legally of course. They can’t waste your money if they can’t get it – deny them in every way possible.

    Everyone will renege on the deal at the first opportunity after China & India set the precedent.

    • rivoniaboy says:
      December 13, 2015 at 20:53

      It was an utter farce Magoo, there was no deal, as the 31-page pact does not have binding language or a mechanism to force countries to live up to the promises to cut greenhouse gases.

      Thankfully all cows can continue to fart with impunity.

    • Warren Tooley says:
      December 14, 2015 at 02:07

      Well Magoo, that means gold and silver. The appreciation in housing, means higher rates. The interest on investments get taxed. But with gold and silver you pay a one off tax of GST. And as it doesn’t attract a regular tax from every time it appreciates, it is invisible to the government’s computers.

      2ndly, this means trusts set up in a way that the government can’t touch it. Sad, that these are the only ways you can win. Does anybody else know a way we can win.

      • Warren Tooley says:
        December 14, 2015 at 02:08

        Last comment was in response to Magoo at 20:37.

        • KG says:
          December 14, 2015 at 02:20

          “Does anybody else know a way we can win.”
          How about
          Big Machine Gun

          • Warren Tooley says:
            December 14, 2015 at 10:24

            I knew someone would think in terms of getting physical. But as far as keeping our money safe, no one has come up with anything else, other than getting physical.

            • Wombat says:
              December 14, 2015 at 16:42

              Ammunition tends to hold its value quite well, particularly if you rotate old for new as you use it.

              In some circumstances it becomes all but invaluable.

              We have it noted as we purchase it, but there’s obviously no mechanism to determine how much has been used so in that sense it’s even more untraceable than gold.

      • Magoo says:
        December 14, 2015 at 10:24

        Set up a legitimate small business (e.g. online shopping), buy a 2 storey house and write off the bottom story (50%) as home office, storage space, etc – you can buy whatever value house you choose. The house appreciates (hopefully) in value but 50% of the mortgage interest is tax deductible, and the same percentage can be applied to all business related household bills such as maintenance, rates, electricity, broadband, insurance, water, telephone, etc.

        You have to make sure you can justify the percentage of the house you’re claiming for business use is legitimate to the IRD, so it’s highly advisable to consult a reputable accountant about it. It’s important not to try to pull a fast one, but the IRD are happy if it’s all legitimate and legal.

        • Warren Tooley says:
          December 14, 2015 at 11:22

          Magoo, your talking to an accountant. First of all yes, in the USA, mortgage interest whether for home or business is tax deductible, at least it used to be for the home. In New Zealand that isn’t how it works. Only what is used for business is tax deductible. If you use the internet partly for recreation, they will say you only get the deduction based on your business use.

          So you can make the deductions as high as you want, but the higher your expenses are, the less profit you get. Their’s no getting around it.

          However, with trusts its a different story. Someone related to me, might make 50,000 pounds a year in Britain, it all goes into a trust account. If he takes only 20,000 out per year, the first 20,000 pounds is tax free. So with that 30,000 difference, it just builds up. When he retires he can just start to drawn down on his equity.

          Also as stated gold and silver’s accumulation isn’t taxable, and therefore is not traceable. Only the things that get taxed are traceable. Those are the only two ways I know that work, and of course guns.

          • Magoo says:
            December 14, 2015 at 13:25

            Warren – Yes you’re right, only the percentage for business purposes is allowable, & that is calculated by the area of the property used for business purposes. My accountant, who is a chartered accountant and VERY conservative in what he allows, assures me all costs related to a home office (including broadband) can be estimated from the percentage of the property that the home office occupies – the exact amount can also be used if preferable. As the mortgage and bills are all a requirement of a home office they can be claimed as a business expense to the same percentage of the home office floor space.

            I’m not saying the whole house can be claimed, just the percentage used solely for business. Regarding internet use, how do you establish what percentage of the internet use is business related, a logbook of megabytes used?

            It’s also true that ‘the higher your expenses are, the less profit you get’, but if the expenses are for something that is growing in capital value more that the cost of the expenses it can make it worthwhile, e.g. tax free capital gains on property. In other words, the business can part-invest in a legitimate & essential asset (property via home office) that appreciates in value, whilst legitimately claiming a tax deduction on the costs of the acquisition and associated ongoing costs, thereby lowering those costs to the point that the appreciation outweighs the costs enough to increase profitability and decrease the tax burden – there is no capital gains tax on profits made from the sale of the property, as with gold & silver. This wasn’t the main aim in the acquisition of the asset of course, but it is a positive nonetheless. Better to invest money in a tax deductible appreciating business asset than to pay it as a loss in tax. It’s not illegal or even dodgy, just smart business if done correctly.

            http://www.ird.govt.nz/business-income-tax/expenses/homebus-exp/bit-expenses-homebusinessexp.html

            • Magoo says:
              December 14, 2015 at 13:35

              Just to clarify – there is no tax on property in the same way as there is no tax on gold or silver.

              • Warren Tooley says:
                December 14, 2015 at 16:16

                Hi Magoo, I must give you full marks for being clued up on the fundamentals. I work alongside a Chartered Accountant. I do the bookkeeping, for my clients, and at the end of the year we have a discussion with the C.A.

                So how it operates is if you don’t keep a log book, you get an automatic travel deduction at 25%. If you paid $5,000 for car expenses, $1,250 of that is deductible unless you can show you’ve done more than that. Also, with phone or internet its 50%, unless you can prove you’ve done more than that.

                So yes, with the rest of your argument, that the amount you pay on your mortgage is to your benefit I get that. If I pay $100 rent for business (that is the amount apportioned to business) I don’t quite get the same as if I paid $200 in mortgage interest and principal. So I totally get your point.

                With your last short point, what I’m saying, is that when property accumulates in value, you pay more rates. This means it is on the governments books. It doesn’t mean they own it, it just means they’re keeping track of the value of it, and as it goes up, they’ll charge more for your rates. With gold and silver, I pay one off GST, and its paid in full, any accumulation in value, is 100% mine. Another side to the coin-property that is, is that the city council’s borrowing is tied to the value of your house, but its not tied to the value of your silver. Finally, what some naughty lawyers do, is if your house is very valuable, they will try to persuade the other partner to have a divorce. So its in reaction to that, that I’m being a gold bug, wanting to make sure they can’t take my wealth.

                However, you do know a few tricks to be in the system, and profit from it. Whereas I just want to have as little to do with the system as possible.

                • Warren Tooley says:
                  December 14, 2015 at 16:20

                  Just to clarify, with an internet log book, you keep time sheets, stating your personal, or business time slots, or if that’s not right, it would be your megabytes: personal or business.

                • KG says:
                  December 14, 2015 at 18:20

                  Warren, it’s a comment space, not a bloody essay
                  blank cheque.

  8. Redbaiter says:
    December 13, 2015 at 22:04

    Communists often claim that the reason the Soviet Union failed was its comparative isolation, its disengagement with the rest of the capitalist world.

    The climate change scam is an attempt to correct this problem and ensnare the complete globe in its net. Incrementally introduce communism across the whole world.

    That is why there is such commitment from so many left wing sources. This is communism’s greatest chance at revival.

    • Andrew Berwick says:
      December 13, 2015 at 22:49

      The Soviet Union lasted for over 50 years and ran much lower tax rates than John Key’s government.

      The question we should ask is why didn’t Truman take LeMay’s advice in 1949 and blow them all to kingdom come.

      I mean: if you believe in the leftist nonsense that is “global warming” there is only one 100% sure fix: nuke China.

      • Wombat says:
        December 14, 2015 at 17:55

        And again, I’ll ask you, are you aware of what a dozen burning metropoli would do to crop yields over a decade?

        Your proposition also seems to assume, rather naively, that China wouldn’t simply nuke us back.

        So please, enlighten me as to how you’re not practicing prep-school geopolitics.

    • Warren Tooley says:
      December 14, 2015 at 02:16

      Red, well that would explain, why China and India are doing so well. If we want to develop, we have all sorts of costs and regulations, that other nations don’t have.

  9. Ronbo says:
    December 14, 2015 at 00:21

    @Redbaiter:

    But the good news is that the International (“Democratic”) Socialist putsch against the world has mugged reality one time too many with its manmade Global Warming crap and a tsunami of nationalism is about to be released that will swept the planet in the coming years.

    • Redbaiter says:
      December 14, 2015 at 02:18

      Yeah, it seems to be really kicking off in Australia.

      Tony Abbott was anti AGW but he was replaced by Malcolm Turnbull. Your typical progressive surrender monkey.

      Abbott wasn’t even going to go to Paris, but Turnbull went there and kissed commie arse.

      Now there is great rage at this turn around, with people saying Turnbull has no mandate, which is right in a way.

      There is also a major confrontation brewing over the right to protest against the Islamisation of Australia.

      Some guys held a protest in Sydney at the weekend and were beaten up by a big gang of masked communists.

      It won’t happen again. Next time, there will be much greater numbers and the commies are going to get a fright.

      The unpredictable part is what the Police will do then. But they failed to protect the Anti-Islamists from the commies this weekend. So if there is a large riot, the Police will be partly to blame.

      • Warren Tooley says:
        December 14, 2015 at 10:30

        But Red, they’re wanting to make climate denial a crime. I’m not saying we don’t have power or an effect, just that these people are being very aggressive about it.

        Also in my New Zealand law dictionary, a state is a sovereign entity able to make treaties with other sovereign entities. And the citizens are subject to the obligations and privileges that state offers. In other words they decide what they think is best for us. So this is a case in point, of how we are being led to slaughter.

        When we had the chance to do a survey on global warming, the questions were set out in such a way that I couldn’t say what I wanted. The questions were how much should we reduce it by. Their was no room for me to say that we are airfreighting things made in 31 different countries. Why don’t we just buy things made in one country. So much for it being democratic.

      • Andrew Berwick says:
        December 14, 2015 at 11:32

        There is also a major confrontation brewing over the right to protest against the Islamisation of Australia.

        We don’t want to “protest” the Islamisation of Australia: we want to stop it.

        Next time, there will be much greater numbers and the commies are going to get a fright

        We can only hope so.

        The unpredictable part is what the Police will do then.

        If they loved their country we know what they’d do! But then the US Police swear to uphold the Constitution, and there are even groups like OathKeepers — but not of them have done anything on a large scale.

        • Wombat says:
          December 14, 2015 at 18:00

          “…but not of them have done anything on a large scale.”

          Maybe they’re waiting on a whole heap of loose-lipped Americans to back their play by walking the walk instead of talking the talk.

  10. Ronbo says:
    December 14, 2015 at 00:23

    @Andrew Berwick:

    QUIET!

    Don’t give Obama any ideas!

    • Yokel says:
      December 14, 2015 at 05:55

      Ron,

      Camoron “persuaded” the “Big 6” ISPs to make an offer that none of their subscribers could refuse. Either they accept a filtered internet or they get put on a list of perverts (how else will Mr Plod the Policeman look at the list of people who declined to have their internet access filtered for them against secret criteria?).

      For a bit of background, have a look at the blog of one bloke who runs one of the smaller ISPs in the UK at http://www.me.uk/. Amongst all the technical stuff and big boys toys, he often talks about his fears of the direction that interception and filtering are going.

      So get your colleague to go to one of the small ISPs. He will have to pay a bit more for his broadband, but will probably find it technically a lot more competent.

      • Ronbo says:
        December 14, 2015 at 08:16

        Gee, Britain is so lucky to have a Conservative PM in office who believes in freedom of speech and the right of the People to watch, read, or listen to anything they desire.

        He kinds reminds me of the block headed Tory ministers in the 1760s and early 1770s who were doing things like that in transatlantic Britain – I do seem to remember those actions of tyranny did cause a bit of a controversy and more than a few bloody heads…

        Also, at the end of a long day, the Tories lost.

        You’d think they’d learn.

  12. PC says:
    December 14, 2015 at 08:44

    But what are we going to do about gravity?

    • KG says:
      December 14, 2015 at 08:54

      It’s a worry, PC. It appears to be un-taxable. http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif

    • andy5759 says:
      December 14, 2015 at 10:24

      Gravity will all come down to a drop in the ocean. Unless, of course, gravity can be reversed by creating a jumping tax. Every time you jump a gal ya git taxed, a bit fer a bit. Evra time ya jump a nuther man there’s no tax. Jump as in pork, not thump. Tumpin an jumpin, jus so confusion fer lil ole me. Now, where’s them there Gods who’re gonna change the world? Any of them need jumpin’?

  13. Darin says:
    December 14, 2015 at 10:59

    Here is what is going to happen.In China and India and much of South America nothing will change.They aren’t going to cut back,it would be stupid for them to do so and since nothing in this agreement is legally binding expect nothing.

    In the west however,expect politicians and government connected business groups to insist on making change(s) $$$$$ and when questioned by John Q public as to why we are being taxed silly while the developing world does nothing.The answer will be -but,but,but we signed this treaty! And they will pretend it’s legally binding,throw their hands in the air and ignore the outcry and jet off to the next climate summit.

  14. Warren Tooley says:
    December 14, 2015 at 11:23

    But Darin, its even worse, they are doing what they can to make denying climate change a crime.

    • Wombat says:
      December 14, 2015 at 18:05

      Like they made “offending people racially” a crime in Australia.

      Fantastic, says I.

      When you make speech illegal then it tips the balance in favor of action, because if both words and action are illegal then why bother with words, as they exist to be noticed (and are simple to police) whereas action can be both covert and meaningful.

      So let them ban speech of any kind they choose. The outcome will be the trade of megaphones for balaclavas. While we’re still young, thanks! http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_good.gif

  15. Lara says:
    December 14, 2015 at 13:01

    Key has just signed up every Kiwi household for $100 a year for this bs.
    When were we ever actually asked!!
    Mr ‘even if you don’t like me, still vote in the flag referendum’ Key.

    Yuck.

    • Warren Tooley says:
      December 14, 2015 at 16:31

      Well Lara, this is what my law dictionary defines state: A sovereign state; an entity with the attributes of statehood, namely, a defined territory, permanent population, effective government and the ability to enter into international relations.

      A citizen is defined: A full member of the civil community who enjoys certain privileges in that community and is subject to certain obligations.

      So what this means Lara, is the state is a sovereign entity, and we are inside that sovereign entity. And that’s why they can make these deals on our behalf, giving us privileges and obligations. So this is why I’m thinking of starting up the no vote party. If the no vote party gets 20 seats, the Nats will still need to get 61 seats, from other parties.

      It will be a way of saying, we have no confidence, we do not authorise you to make silly decisions on our behalf. Unfortunately this is how the system works. Anybody want to be a no vote candidate.

      • KG says:
        December 14, 2015 at 18:18

        Voting in elections merely legitimises a corrupt system.
        No matter who you vote for.

        • Wombat says:
          December 14, 2015 at 19:29

          Plus one. Humanity needs to inverse its relationship with the state.

          Tax and power should be held primarily at a local level with it trickling downstream to state and then finally federal and global administrations. At the far end the federation ought consist of little more than a forum for voluntary state negotiations with a pittance for maintaining whatever broom closet is designated as the new capital parliament building.

  16. Warren Tooley says:
    December 14, 2015 at 16:38

    PS in a true republic, the people are sovereigns. We don’t live in a true republic.

    • Ronbo says:
      December 15, 2015 at 02:23

      The sorry state of mankind throughout the ages – they say that being a whore is the oldest profession of woman; whereas, the oldest profession of man is politician, who teams up with like minded thieves and they figure out how they can become rich without working: BECOME THE RULING CLASS!

      Thus is created the oldest form of government: Rule by The Chief (tyranny) of the tribe and his merry politicians – who need The Chief to back them with the power of law (LAW =FORCE) – when they knock you over the head if you’re not politically correct and not forthcoming with the taxes.

      So far all attempts to limit the power of The Chief have failed – although We The People in the Anglosphere did give it that good old college try on many occasions.