Some random questions for the powers that be in NZ about the Deli isle jihadi-
“Jacinda Ardern says ‘every legal avenue’ was used to detain Ahamed Aathil Mohamed Samsudeen until his refugee status was resolved”
In a just society, shouldn’t his behavior have resolved his refugee status?
“Neither his name nor the fact that he was a refugee could be reported until a suppression order by a New Zealand judge was lifted late on Saturday night. The identity of refugees, and their immigration status, are automatically protected by law in New Zealand.”
Again, in a just society, shouldn’t this information be known?
“Officials had tried to justify detaining Samsudeen in jail until his asylum case was resolved but there were no legal grounds for doing so. Instead, 30 officers watched him around the clock for more than 50 days before he grabbed a knife from a supermarket shelf and attacked shoppers, metres away from the undercover police surveilling him.”
30 officers, around the clock for 50 days? Who pays for this and how many more are being watched around the clock? Is it 30 officers per suspect, or 30 for the whole lot?
“Samsudeen arrived in New Zealand in October 2011, aged 22, on a student visa. Shortly after arriving he made a claim for refugee status. Immigration New Zealand declined this claim in 2012, but he appealed to the Immigration and Protection Tribunal and was successful. He was granted refugee status in December 2013.
In 2016 he caught the attention of the police and the Security Intelligence Service after talking sympathetically on Facebook about terrorist attacks, violent war-related videos and comments advocating violence extremism, and he was spoken to by police.
In May 2017, Samsudeen was arrested at Auckland International airport. Police believed he was heading to Syria, and a search of his apartment found Islamic State propaganda, and a hunting knife. He was released on bail, but in August 2018 – while on bail – bought a knife and police arrested him again, and found further extremist material.”
So nearly 10 years and how many tax dollars went into this social project?
“Authorities had known Samsudeen wanted to commit a terrorist attack, but planning one is not a crime in New Zealand. Ardern said her government had asked the passage of a controversial new antiterrorism law to be sped up on the same day Friday’s mass stabbing took place, and she hoped it will pass by the end of the month.”
Doesn’t this seem a tad too convienient? I mean for this terror attack to happen right before a vote to changes in legislation that will most likely do more to harm NZ citizen’s rights than protect them from government over reach and stupidity?
“Agencies used every tool available to protect innocent people from this individual,” Ardern said. “Every legal avenue was tried.”
So the law doesn’t allow people slated for deportation to be detained if they are deemed a threat to the public?
“Ardern earlier said Samsudeen had refused a psychiatric assessment that could have seen him forced into a mental health facility.
There appeared to be nothing out of the ordinary when Samsudeen left his house to buy groceries at a supermarket in a west Auckland mall on Friday, said Andrew Coster, New Zealand’s police commissioner. Officers tailing him – who had waited at the entrance to the supermarket – had not realised until 60-90 seconds into the attack that he was stabbing shoppers.
Samsudeen was “highly paranoid”, took counter-surveillance measures, and had on other occasions accused members of the public of tailing him, Coster said.”
So you had 30 police officers tasked with following him for the past 50 days, but he was”highly paranoid”? If you really are being followed 24/7, that doesn’t mean you are paranoid, it means you are correct.
Wouldn’t the safe and sane way to address this issue be to simply stop taking in refugees?
More idiocy on display here-
And yet, no popular uprising in NZ.
They have a lot of sheep there.
Yes.
Two points.
The police have saved the NZ taxpayer a lot of future expense.
Ardern will use this opportunity to pass anti terror laws that will target people who criticise the government – specifically her government.