Wabbit’s next rifle

Posted on July 20, 2014 by KG

Ruger14 This, with an over-barrel moderator and a shotgun scope. A .223 should just about be able to cope with rabbits….and the mouse behind the ‘fridge. <20ft.

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48 Responses to Wabbit’s next rifle

  1. Michael in Nelson says:
    July 20, 2014 at 12:38

    Will you be allowed to bring that into NZ?

  2. mistress mara says:
    July 20, 2014 at 14:56

    KG, “the mouse behind the fridge”!! Eee gads, just when I was starting to think you had a heart. Do as I do, trap them in a humane trap, drive 20kms to a friendly forest, release them, then drive all the way home sobbing because you suspect they may feel lonely and abandoned or get cold. Or get a Fox Terrier and look the other way.

  3. KG says:
    July 20, 2014 at 15:03

    Empathy can sometimes be a real inconvenience……
    “Or get a Fox Terrier and look the other way.” :mrgreen:
    No blood on your hands then, Mara?
    We Death Beasts live with the consequences of our actions. ;-)
    But seriously, I’m not a huge fan of killing things–four-legged things, that is. But I do kill pests and for food. (That stuff in the meat cabinet at the local supermarket didn’t commit suicide and roll itself in cling wrap, y’know)

  4. KG says:
    July 20, 2014 at 15:39

    “husband”..”honeymoon”…
    No, it’s NOT effing ‘normal’. Common perhaps, but not normal.

  5. Oswald Bastable says:
    July 20, 2014 at 15:50

    Get the target model. My old ruger used to spray like a scattergun.

  6. the conservative says:
    July 20, 2014 at 16:56

    Why on earth would you want to come here?

    • Darin says:
      July 20, 2014 at 22:41

      Super nice! Only one thing,why on Earth would someone own a work of art like that and put that crappy $1.98 Fram oil filter on it? :shock:

      Oh well,guess they didn’t get rich by writing checks :grin:

      • KG says:
        July 21, 2014 at 05:59

        Dunno, Darin. I’m pretty sure the Colombo V12 doesn’t normally have the filter mounted there.

  9. Flashman says:
    July 20, 2014 at 17:51

    Ruger Mini14’s are neat but spray and group-to-disappoint even at short ranges. My theory is that this has something to do with the light, whippy barrel.

    • KG says:
      July 20, 2014 at 17:55

      Well, Flashy, Chuck Hawks is a writer on gun-related stuff and I’ve found him to be absolutely reliable.
      He says the new Rugers are pretty (hunting) accurate – after a trigger job – and that’s good enough for me.
      The only rifle I’ve owned that didn’t need a trigger job is my Sako A7.
      http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_mini14_review.htm

      • Flashman says:
        July 21, 2014 at 04:15

        No grief intended.
        I shoot IPSC and in the 3-gun comps I’ve seen Rugers (as low-cost entry options) live to disappoint even when fully tricked out. The first couple of shots fly okay then they seem to lose their grouping ability very quickly. Spoke to a top NZ 3-gunner and his experience matches.

        That said, Ruger’s probably biddable for a couple of double-taps.

        • KG says:
          July 21, 2014 at 05:50

          “That said, Ruger’s probably biddable for a couple of double-taps.”
          :grin:
          Good enough. Cold zero +1 is for us old guys. http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_good.gif
          It can climb all over the place as it warms up after that.
          I wonder though, Flash, if a heavy aftermarket barrel would be worth a look for owners of older M14’s?
          ‘Stainless steel replacement barrel for the 580 Series Mini-14 and newer Ranch Rifles can also be used to upgrade an old series Mini-14 to a barrel with the heavier contour (requires installation of .625″ gas block, available separately). Comes with pre-installed, factory-height front sight assembly that will work with standard factory rear sight. Gunsmithing required—barrel must be properly indexed and final reamed for proper headspace.’
          http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/mini-14-heavy-contour-barrel-prod43814.aspx

  10. Oswald Bastable says:
    July 20, 2014 at 18:18

    My SKS shoots 3″ at 100, with the rather basic issue sights. Cost$399.

  11. Michael in Nelson says:
    July 20, 2014 at 18:39

    Here’s something for your smaller pests KG

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/07/want-one-badly/

    • KG says:
      July 20, 2014 at 20:20

      Hmmmmmm…Gecko has a beautiful .17HMR which will do that job, Michael. ;-) (and she stole my Leupold shotgun scope to put on it. *sob*)

  12. Andrew Berwick says:
    July 20, 2014 at 19:32

    Davy Crockett. Man portable, so guaranteed by the 2nd amendment – and just what you need if the feds come to call.

  13. Ronbo says:
    July 20, 2014 at 22:15

    WOW :!:

    You people down there in the South Pacific are really into guns :!:

    A person would think you’re worried about WW III, or home grown Marxists :twisted: http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_good.gif

  14. Darin says:
    July 20, 2014 at 23:12

    Like I tell the liberals who call themselves my friends,a gun is like a fire extinguisher,it’s better to have one and not need it,than to need one and not have it.

    What I have been waiting to come back instock,been nearly a year nowhttp://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif
    http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3JRM1GK

  15. mistress mara says:
    July 21, 2014 at 00:10

    We now have a little wool covered dog creature that leaps out of bed at 3am, wakes the street barking at the sound of a rattie in the house and then goes back to bed satisfied that he has ruined the sleep of all neighbours within a 1km radius. Problem.

    • Ronbo says:
      July 21, 2014 at 02:50

      SOLUTION: Ear Plugs…and get the “airlines model” – I slept through several hurricanes in Florida like a baby…Well, that was until the one 2004 blew the roof off my house, and the rain and wind woke me up. :mrgreen:

      • KG says:
        July 21, 2014 at 05:46

        SOLUTION2:
        Nah, you don’t want to hear it, Mara.
        Anything under twenty kilos is not a dog. :roll:

  16. MvL says:
    July 21, 2014 at 06:35

    You’re gonna need some oil for that baby. :mrgreen:
    http://shop.tacticalshit.com/liberal-tears-gun-oil-6oz

  17. Ronbo says:
    July 21, 2014 at 06:41

    Speaking of the M-1 Garand, I remember as kid you could buy them thru the mail for less than $100.

    Of course, you were suppose to be 21, and you were if you checked the box. No I.D. necessary and C.O.D. (charge on delivery was acceptable)

    So I’m a lad of 16 who wants to go deer hunting with my friends, but I couldn’t put together the money for an M-1; however, I could come up with $19.95 for a reconditioned British .303 Jungle Carbine and five bucks for the surplus ammunition.

    Anyhow, the big day came and my rifle was delivered. I showed it to my dad and said I had made an excellent deal, as the .303 was a good rifle. He went on to say that part of his training in England prior to D-Day was qualification with British firearms.

    So I got my rifle. I got my hunting trip to the wild mountains of West Virginia. But I didn’t get my deer…

    My rich kid hunting buddy with an M-1 Garand nailed a buck at 500 meters with open sights :!: :mrgreen:

  18. mistress mara says:
    July 21, 2014 at 16:56

    Little dogs have benefits. They don’t eat much, they bark like hell when someone comes up the path and they keep your kidneys warm in bed. ;-)

    • KG says:
      July 21, 2014 at 17:03

      The problem is, they so often bark like hell at everything and anything, which makes them useless as a guard dog. And a bloody nuisance to anybody living nearby.
      We used to have a beautiful, smart Shepherd, who, if he heard something suspicious, used to pad quietly up to the bedroom and make a “pfffft” sound in my ear, then wait until I got out of bed and followed him to see what was up.
      That’s my idea of a good guard dog. :grin:

  19. Oswald Bastable says:
    July 21, 2014 at 17:24

    Thinking that an over barrel suppressor would help damp down any barrel harmonics and help with accuracy. The heavy barrel model is apparently capable of 1 MOA or less.

    • KG says:
      July 21, 2014 at 17:36

      :shock: Really? Now, that’s promising, Os. If I bought the cheaper wood/blued version it would soften the $500 cost of the suppressor, non?

      • Oswald Bastable says:
        July 21, 2014 at 17:47

        Nothing wrong with wood and blued steel!

      • Oswald Bastable says:
        July 21, 2014 at 18:07

        The target model is not compatible with 5.56×45- tells me the chamber is reamed to tighter tolerances. Despite popular belief, .223 and 5.56 are not quite the same thing. That would rule out the target model for me! The ‘adjustable harmonic dampener’ looks to me like a moveable barrel weight. It would have to go for the suppressor.

        • KG says:
          July 21, 2014 at 18:25

          I thought they were the same, Oswald. Ya live and learn!
          Hopefully, I’ll get a good price for the Sako to help pay for it.

          • Oswald Bastable says:
            July 21, 2014 at 18:32

            The primary difference between .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45 mm is that .223 is loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to 5.56 mm. .223 Remington ammunition can be safely fired in a 5.56 mm chambered gun, but the reverse can be an unsafe combination. The additional pressure created by 5.56 mm ammo will frequently cause over-pressure problems such as difficult extraction, flowing brass, or popped primers, but in extreme cases, could damage or destroy the rifle. Chambers cut to .223 Remington specifications have a shorter leade (throat) area as well as slightly shorter headspace dimensions compared to 5.56 mm “military” chamber specs, which contributes to the pressure issues.

            While the 5.56 mm and .223 cartridges are very similar, they are not identical. Military cases are made from thicker brass than commercial cases, which reduces the powder capacity (an important consideration for handloaders), and the NATO specification allows a higher chamber pressure. Test barrels made for 5.56mm NATO measure chamber pressure at the case mouth, as opposed to the SAAMI location. This difference accounts for upwards of 20,000+ psi difference in pressure measurements. That means that advertised pressure of 58,000 psi for 5.56mm NATO, is around 78,000 psi tested in .223 Rem test barrels (SAAMI .223 Rem Proof MAP is 78,500 psi so every 5.56mm round fired is a proof load, very dangerous). The 5.56 mm chambering, known as a NATO or mil-spec chambers, have a longer leade, which is the distance between the mouth of the cartridge and the point at which the rifling engages the bullet. The .223 chambering, known as the “SAAMI chamber”, is allowed to have a shorter leade, and is only required to be proof tested to the lower SAAMI chamber pressure. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber[2] or the Armalite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm and .223 equally well.

            Using commercial .223 cartridges in a 5.56-chambered rifle should work reliably, but generally will not be as accurate as when fired from a .223-chambered gun due to the excessive leade. [3] Using 5.56 mil-spec cartridges (such as the M855) in a .223-chambered rifle can lead to excessive wear and stress on the rifle and even be unsafe, and the SAAMI recommends against the practice.[4] Some commercial rifles marked as “.223 Remington” are in fact suited for 5.56 mm, such as many commercial AR-15 variants and the Ruger Mini-14, but the manufacturer should always be consulted to verify that this is acceptable before attempting it, and signs of excessive pressure (such as flattening or gas staining of the primers) should be looked for in the initial testing with 5.56 mm ammunition.

  20. Michael in Nelson says:
    July 22, 2014 at 15:54

    Typical of me to go OT but I thought this was worth a mention. Well done Australia! You have made many others brave.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/21/aussie-carbon-tax-repeal-discourages-cap-and-traders-across-the-planet/

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