TPP: This is global tyranny.
‘In this exclusive emergency address, Alex breaks down the hidden reasons behind the evil Trans Pacific trade Partnership. The TPP is global domination by a fascist cartel bent on enslaving the world. Now the Senate has given fast-track authority to Obama to impliment this secret plan and set fire to our constitution, rules of law and ultimately our liberty and way of life…’
More HERE (Thanks Gantt)
I’m always at a minimum very, very skeptical of anything Alex Jones says – he’s sponsored by the fascist pig Putin, after all.
That said, the more I hear and learn about this TPP, the more I realise it is, in fact, globalised tyranny.
http://universalfreepress.com/treason-of-the-highest-order-trade-deal-details-classified-for-5-years-after-implemented/#
When the bottom falls completely out of the middle class we’ll see what patriots will do when they have no food for their families but plenty of guns and ammunition.
I draw no foregone conclusions because there are too many variables at play. The best we can hope for is early and numerous secessions from as many states as possible. Unfortunately secession will not be driven by elected officials, who only stand to lose from the process (though they may wax lyrical about it in order to appease the commoners), and modern Americans like the rest of us are utterly unfamiliar with the concept out acting outside of the democratic box (or more accurately cage).
What follows must certainly hinge around the coming currency wars, if indeed they ever arrive.
I would add that unlike previous collapses where the same old snakes rise out of the ashes to reclaim power, I for one will be working doubletime to ensure that where rule of law disappears that it never reappears in anything but local form.
As far as I’m concerned, if a governing body of my local district is seated further than a day’s walk from my home then they and any of their agents will be treated as hostile invaders. I will also see to it that my sons and their sons operate likewise.
“he’s sponsored by the fascist pig Putin, after all.”
Do you mean the the “fascist pig that saved the U.S. from yet another disastrous military adventure in Syria or how Putin is defending the persecuted Christians.
It’s a tricky one for sure.
I’d imagine that Russia needs a firm ruler much like the Arabs.
Putin is clearly a patriot and a defender of his countries heritage.
At what cost though and what for the future when he departs, the systems that are set could ruthlessly punish the people, more so than they do now.
The truth is that if we had a Putin running the show here we’d think ourselves lucky that someone was protecting our culture and our borders, even if not our liberty.
The current crop of statists across the entire board want to destroy all three.
Nah, I mean more like imprisoning his rivals and stealing their wealth, enriching his mates, murdering journalists who are unfavourable.
I mean breaching the agreement made in the 1990s whereby Russia agreed to acknowledge Ukraine’s sovereign borders (including Crimea) on condition of Ukraine relinquishing its nukes.
Putin is exactly what you’d expect an ex-KGB Colonel to be – a murderous asshole.
And yet…..I find him no more loathsome than Obama, Cameron and Key.
Both roads lead to totalitarianism.
No argument there, KG. I’m not saying he’s any worse than any of the others – I’m just saying his sponsorship of Jones makes Jones just as unbiased as (say) Piers Morgan.
Fair point.
I was more thinking the Putin who wrote – “Moscow, Washington, London, Paris, Brussels, Jerusalem, Lagos, Addis Ababa, Beijing, New Delhi–come together in a new Holy Alliance, similar to that which kept Europe safe from radicalism in the early 19th century. Let’s join one another to crush the unholy, unruly, jihadi Muslims. The good Muslims will thank us for it. And if they don’t–too bad.”
So Putin is fighting people like Obama , Cameron and other criminals (like the people on this blog do) but he is the bad guy and we are the good ones ?
RobertV, I guess its like Stalin and Hitler were enemies, they weakened each other so that Roosevelt could win.
And now we have a combination of Stalin + Hitler in The White House.
Nope, not suggesting for a second he’s any worse than any of the others (although in terms of corruption, thuggery and trails of corpses, he makes the Clinton Crime Family look like a model of propriety).
My comment wasn’t even really about Putin (other than tangentially), it was about Alex Jones.
The Clinton Crime Family is small people ,puppets.
https://youtu.be/gnY0RznyRQM
the Humble Pencil
Government intervention would make the pencil unaffordable.
“if a governing body of my local district is seated further than a day’s walk from my home then they and any of their agents will be treated as hostile invaders.”
Because that is what they will be.
I like that line! Very much actually! The problem maybe that every generation and every locale produces its own Hitlers.
Like you, Gantt, I’m highly skeptical where Jones is concerned. But even a stopped clock etc………
If this agreement was in the interests of the people politicians are supposed to represent, then there would be no need for this level of secrecy.
I hope somebody comes up with the missing info in order to claim the $100,000 reward.
(but if they do, the odds of them surviving more than a few months to enjoy the money will be slim, imho.)
The crux of the matter is this: regardless of what is in this agreement, elected officials have no right to withhold information concerning treaties and agreements from the citizens who elected them and who pay their salaries.
I have a full copy which came my way on 31 October last year.
What has my attention is the fact that both the Teaparty and the hard left are in agreement on this one.
Even if this turned out to be the best deal ever(I doubt it) the secrecy aspect is still monumental bullshit.
Darin, on the clip ‘infowars blows the lid off of the TPP’ this is how one person described the TPP, on the comments section.
InHisReign 2 months ago (edited)
To me TPP stands for Toilet Paper People because there Shit Stinks & does Stick & our jobs down the Toilet! Sure these Big Companies can hire cheap labor in other country’s to do the same job cheaper for bigger profits for the Now & present But when these people start complaining about better pay equality these companies then move on to the next cheaper labor force to exploit them till in the end in the long run ALL western country’s & eventually some Asian country’s will become broke & the common people will become poor because they are paid so little that what little they do make barely buys enough food let alone luxuries which in the long run when these Big Corporates go to sell there fancy new Electronic goods or whatever back to the consumer in the so called well off country’s They wont be able to afford them anymore because they have no JOBs & No Money anymore then the Whole lot will come crashing down But hey the Big Fat cats up top don’t care because they have already made it BIG TIME as they have ALL the WEALTH!!
The cheaper labor argument was true maybe 30 years ago,but not anymore.Automation is taking over even in China,where used to in my trade a factory would have as an example four turret lathes running parts each with a human operator.Now they would have four CNC lathes with one operator and each machine would be capable of 4x’s the production.The cost of labor is a very small component of most mass produced consumer goods.
Instead the big expenses are environmental regs,energy and taxation.China for example has much lower environmental regs than anywhere in the west,lower energy costs and (smartly)lower corporate tax rates.
In a production environment a human being simply cannot compete with an automated system.Once manufacturing jobs are lost,they will never return simply because human labor is antiquated.
This same situation holds true in Asia.Awhile back my father needed a mobility scooter to get around.I went on Ebay and found one new for $700 delivered.It showed up in a big UPS box.I unpacked and assembled it in about 5 minutes,everything went together seamlessly with no hangups.Country of origin,I expected China,but nope,Vietnam.I looked up the company that built it online and saw rows of CNC lathes and machining centers in their factory with very few humans standing around.It’s the new way and it just doesn’t require as many people.
Some examples of what the machines can do,high speed machining-
https://youtu.be/L5aC5Kpvibc
High speed laser cutting-
https://youtu.be/RQIJSsbvolc
Darin, if someone is required to operate the machinery, then labour is still required. However, stable consumption is required. When you take away jobs, if those people stop consuming, then you have excess supply with no demand. Suppose a mechanic’s assistant has lost their job. Less money for the supermarket, that the assistant bought at. Less money for the supermarket means they may lay off people at the supermarket.
Ah, so what they do is they say, what about welfare. We don’t need these people to have jobs, if the government will just give them money. So that’s what we have, governments with big deficits. But once the government cannot borrow no more, then those who don’t have jobs, won’t consume.
This is what this guy was saying, I know because I dialogued with him. But yes, environmental regulations etc, are bigger factors, then simply labour. I think cheaper labour is just the governments excuse for less manufacturing, so they don’t take responsibility for their draconian policies.
*IF* someone is still required to operate the machinery.That’s to problem,everyone is assuming they won’t be replaced by an algorithm.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-08/billionaire-cartier-owner-sees-wealth-gap-fueling-social-unrest
Much fuss was recently made about several Walmart stores that closed supposedly because they were to be turned into FEMA detention centers etc,etc.I would be willing to bet that those stores will be retrofitted and when they reopen will be completely or nearly completely automated.
Yes Darin, this is the nature of the era we’re in. At some point, we won’t need humans to do anything. Then the question will be, what will the wealthy do? Will they be happy for everybody to work for nothing? Or would they rather let people starve and have a small population.
“Or would they rather let people starve and have a small population.”
No prizes for the right answer….
Well, Gantt says that the elite want to depopulate, and their’s others who are saying the same thing. So I take it, that when humans are no longer needed, those who are not needed will either starve to death, unless manna comes down from heaven.
If the TPPA is tyrannical then what the hell is the UN? I am impressed by and in favour of the TPPA and suggest it is the best thing the Yanks have down for the Pacific Rim since the Battle of the Coral Sea!
It may well be Cad,I just wish I could read the thing before it’s shoved down my throat and I’m expected to swallow it.
Perhaps you need to take a closer look at the evidence that has leaked out so far, Cad.
Losing control of our own borders and draconian copyright laws is not my idea of a good thing.
What’s more, comparing it to the U.N. seems a bit silly to me – the fucking U.N. is complicit in this monstrosity!
And if it’s such a good thing, I ask again: WHY THE SECRECY?
I have devoted many hours to the TPPA and it occurs to me that those who fear it (Yes Fear!) are of a similar ilk to the mindless anti vaxxers etc. some say we are ceding sovereignty but to whom? What sovereignty has the UN left us with? The document is well drafted and readily able to be construed. Bring it on!
Cad, you said above you have a full copy. I’m not doubting you, but I am confused – how is it that you have a copy when others – wiki, for example (and please don’t think for a second I believe Assange has any more credibility than Alex Jones or Vinny Eastwood) – has offered $100,000 for a full copy?
Why is it that members of the US Congress have to go into a sealed room to view – not copy, but view – the document?
On the one occasion when Key was forced to address the “secrecy” concerns, he claimed the full text would be available to Kiwis when the deal was debated in the Parliament, which as I understand it, hasn’t yet happened.
I think it’s at minimum a little insulting to claim that people who express concern about a globalist agreement which affects their lives and the terms of which they’re not allowed to know are in the same bucket as people who believe vaccinating their children is poisoning them.
I am reliant on an i phone for the next few days but will reply before the end of the week. Are you sure about the reference to a sealed room in Washington? If the TPPA will affect our lives to our collective detriment I would like you to provide your reasons for feeling that way. Please be assured I am open to persuasion.
What Gantt said goes for me, too, Cad.
My comment about the sealed room came from comments Mark Levin made last week on his radio show – and which Leighton Smith repeated this morning.
There’s also this from the Washinton (com)Post:
As to your comment that “If the TPPA will affect our lives to our collective detriment I would like you to provide your reasons for feeling that way”, I don’t have any specific reasons other than the secrecy makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Tim Groser, when asked what’s in it, simply answers with “trust me”.
John Key says once the deal is negotiated, it will be passed into law in the usual way by debate through the New Zealand Parliament, and we’ll be able to assess what’s in it then. My problem with that is (a) it’s already negotiated, so it’s too late, and (b) New Zealand is effectively a Parliamentary Dictatorship with virtually no checks and balances on the party leading the government. So even if it contains all of the worst aspects people have suggested it might – restrictive copyright requirements, trans-national governance arrangements, etc. – it will be too late to do anything about it.
I’m sure if it was going to be of nett benefit to the citizenry, or even supported by a majority of the citizenry, then the government would have been leaking those favourable provisions long before now.
While I completely agree with your comments about the UN, I find your faith in the likes of John Key and Tim Groser to not trade away our sovereignty and (few remaining) liberties … quaint.
Then there’s this…
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/05/exclusive-sessions-to-obama-why-are-you-keeping-obamatrades-new-global-governance-secret/
The strains of “we have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it” cause me – and should cause all thinking people – nightmares.
Well Cad, this is going to make it more difficult for me to get my book published. A couple of years I was told that I could quote 10% of a song and it would be fair usage. I could take the lyrics and show people how that applied to my life experiences. But that was for the US. In NZ it was 4%. They’ve recently said, that I cannot quote even one line without the artists permission.
2ndly, Genetically Modified foods don’t need to be labelled. 3rdly, any changes that the government makes, means lawsuits. If the government says these Hollywood movies are too dirty, we’re going to raise our censorship standards. This means a lawsuit.
Their are so many people here in NZ, who are speaking against the TPP.
Anybody remembers Obama care ? Health Care has become more or less affordable for the average person ?
They had to pass the bill so that you could read what was in it.
Remember ‘The Patriot Act ‘ ?
The Patriot Act is nothing but bad news.