On “gun control” idiots:

Posted on April 22, 2013 by KG

‘Last night, I watched the amateur home video of the shootout between Boston and Watertown police and the person referred to as “Suspect #1.”
I learned that there were something on the order of 200 shots fired during that firefight.
Think about that for just a moment.  It took a dozen or more cops, who are trained professionals, who practice on at least a weekly basis with their firearms, to fire 200 rounds before he finally died.
Yet our politicians (at least here in New York, and some in Washington — as well as other places, I’m sure) are saying that the most anyone needs to have to protect himself from armed intruders is seven rounds in the magazine.
Only seven?!
Of course, it took trained police, who were not dealing with an unexpected attack, who were not roused from a peaceful slumber, who were not worried about their wives and kids, some 200 rounds to kill one dangerous man.
Makes you wonder if those politicians have even the slightest, tiniest hint of anything connected with the real world, doesn’t it?’    American Thinker

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23 Responses to On “gun control” idiots:

  1. Elijah says:
    April 22, 2013 at 14:24

    “who practice on at least a weekly basis with their firearms”

    I highly doubt it. Most cops only ever ever practice for requal.

    • KG says:
      April 22, 2013 at 15:14

      Yeah, I doubt that too, Elijah.

    • Oswald Bastable says:
      April 22, 2013 at 18:20

      Once a year would be the same here in NZ, and the training is more procedural than rounds down the range.

      Yet to keep my pistol endorsement, I have to get in twelve shoots a year.

      To actually keep tolerably good at it, I do a LOT more than that.

      • KG says:
        April 22, 2013 at 18:40

        True. I hadn’t used a pistol for many years and when I finally did again, I was shocked at just how poorly I performed.
        And a cop would be operating under extreme stress, too……

  2. Michael in Nelson says:
    April 22, 2013 at 15:00

    Count on wirecutter to get a heads up about this….

    http://ogdaa.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/a-former-anti-2a-person-actually-gets-it.html

    The best is toward the end….(paraphrase here) ‘So if you don’t want to be slaves again, vote against a gun ban.’

  3. ZenTiger says:
    April 22, 2013 at 17:00

    If I take the same approach as gun control idiots, I have a far better suggestion they should appreciate: all they need to do is make it illegal for bad people to do bad things.

    There, problem solved. Now good people can carry guns and never need to use them, and gun control advocates can leave their doors open at night now that they have passed such sensible legislation.

  4. KG says:
    April 22, 2013 at 18:02

    Thank heavens for that–problem solved! Thanks, Zen. :lol:

  5. KG says:
    April 22, 2013 at 19:40

    Hey Darin–go take a look at this, on Oswald’s blog.
    http://oswaldbastable.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/craftsmanship.html

  6. Oswald Bastable says:
    April 22, 2013 at 19:48

    Another piece of Browning’s genius.

    • KG says:
      April 22, 2013 at 19:58

      It’s just lovely. :smile: Makes the Mossberg look very crude indeed….

      • Darin says:
        April 22, 2013 at 22:52

        Browning was indeed a genius,probably never be another like him either.

        On the complexity of modern trigger groups,it all falls to liability.Modern triggers have been designed so there is no chance of an accidental discharge while being handled by an idiot.
        One such idiot was an old neighbor of mine who had the habit of riding his four wheeler complete with cocked and loaded 12ga auto in the scabbard.The first time he dropped a tire in a Armadillo hole the gun went off and shot the oil filter off the engine :roll:

  7. Darin says:
    April 22, 2013 at 22:54

    Oh,our gun law here in my State has changed again.We went open carry,now I can Mexican carry my .45 in public so long as some part of it is visable.http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

  8. William Stout says:
    April 23, 2013 at 02:14

    Back when I was a firearms instructor we had to bend over backwards to get our officers to the range. We would provide ammunition, hold competitions, and would beg and plead with our guys to practice. The vast majority would not come. Hell, many wouldn’t come to quals if they didn’t have to in order to keep their job. But it wasn’t just the rank and file that I had to contend with, I also had to fight the administrators.

    It took years to slowly evolve the training program to where every new recruit had to go through two weeks of intensive firearms training and each one of them expended about 2,000 rounds. I left the department over a decade ago and frankly, I don’t want to know what they are doing now because of budget cuts.

    Tightened budgets means time spent in training is cut, rounds expended is cut, instead of four quals you now get two, and the beat goes on. Firefights are messy affairs that can cost enforcement agencies tens of millions of dollars. Police negligence, negligent training, wrongful death, and the list goes on, and on, and on. Each and every aspect of training is scrutinized for chinks in the armor to attack. Shooting happened at night? Check. Does the department train in night fire? No? That is what they hit and if you don’t believe that then ask the city of Margate, New Jersey.

    I can tell you for a fact that even SWAT officers who can shoot a group that can be covered with a quarter at fifteen yards will experience a widening of that group when their adrenaline pumps. That widening will greatly expand depending on the lack of trigger time and training. The fear factor also adds in to the number of rounds launched down range.

    It takes a high degree of skill and competence to deliver deadly force until you see the weapon drop and then to move on to the next target. Street cops don’t have that degree of skill. They usually shoot until they run out of ammunition and the slide locks back. That’s why the officers fired 41 rounds in the Diallo shooting in New York. The public took it as police brutality, I knew that those guys were scared shitless.

    Increase the numbers of officers, the fear factor, and 200 rounds launched is perfectly understandable. Just hope that an innocent isn’t standing behind the target when the balloon goes up. Training and practice can substantially limit the numbers of rounds fired, the widening of the shot group, and the numbers of innocent civilians injured or killed. But it cannot totally eliminate them. That’s because in the end, we are only human after all.

    • Darin says:
      April 23, 2013 at 03:07

      I think the best training beyond basic marksmanship for LEO is Paintball sans gear.Meaning have them run a typical paint ball course.same ones the kids use on the weekends,but without pads,just goggles.
      That way they get they get all the stress of a running fire fight and the positive reinforcement of getting hit.They need to learn composure under fire and how to stay in the fight after being hit as well as team work and tactics.

      I would be willing to bet the average inner city gang member gets more trigger time than the average cop.

  9. Robertvdl says:
    April 23, 2013 at 07:26

    Ban the pressure cooker and universal background checks on all nails and ball bearings , limiting nail boxes to seven nails.

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