Horsecrap!

Posted on November 19, 2011 by KG

‘WASHINGTON (AP) — Top international climate scientists and disaster experts meeting in Africa had a sharp message Friday for the world’s political leaders: Get ready for more dangerous and “unprecedented extreme weather” caused by global warming…’  (trust them–they’re from the IPCC.  kg)
But….from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology website:
‘..The atmosphere’s basic function is to redistribute heat from the equator to the poles, and tropical cyclones are one mechanism by which this occurs. However it is still quite remarkable that such a thing as a tropical cyclone should arise. It has been said that if we had not actually observed tropical cyclones then, despite all we know about the physics of the atmosphere, we would never have guessed at their existence…’

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29 Responses to Horsecrap!

  1. HarvardPotatoHead says:
    November 19, 2011 at 02:29

    Greetings to my friends in our 56-57th states! Hopefully the Bog Administraitor will allow this comment re climate change. It is getting pretty chilly up here in the colonies some even having snow. Berry & Michelle being out of country on another vacation may have some effect on this since using great big jets to transport their entourage means they have spent the money they made from taking my 46 bedroom 56 bathroom cottage at Martha’s Vineyard. I have set up living under a pier on the Outer Banks and wish someone would pick me up in a fsat moving seagoing boat and take me down to paradise down there with all the strange animals like kangaroos and ostriches but anyway just thought I would check in the bog and say hello. Please let me know if you have missed me. Harvard

  2. Robertvdl says:
    November 19, 2011 at 04:12

    The worst year for drought in Australia was 1961 – which was also the year when Julia was born. Coincidence?

    http://www.real-science.com/fix-julia
    http://www.real-science.com/garnaut-australian-drought-caused-co2
    http://www.real-science.com/julias-tax-stop

    Global What ?

    And yes the colder the climate the more extreme the weather.

  3. Cadwallader says:
    November 19, 2011 at 04:48

    In NZ the equivalent of these climate liars are the demented and dishonest followers of Winston Peters. If ever there was a cause to establish a maximum voting age Peters and his senescent constituency is it.

    • mort says:
      November 19, 2011 at 07:46

      Not a big enough circle Cad, you need to include the likes of Nick Smith, hypocrite supremo that he is, along with the entire watermelon and Communist regimes that infest National, Labour etc
      lying scum bags the lot of em

    • KG says:
      November 19, 2011 at 08:01

      “In NZ the equivalent of these climate liars are the demented and dishonest followers of Winston Peters. ”
      His followers are no more ‘demented and dishonest’ than the supporters of National, Labour, ACT, the Racist Party and in fact any other NZ political party.
      It’s pretty rich to suggest that the supporters of any one party are uniquely dishonest and demented.
      “Senescent constituency”? No fucking worse than a constituency which is in a perpetual stage of teenage entitlement mentality and political ignorance.
      I’m no Peters fan, but to single out his supporters in the ignorant socialist cesspit of NZ politics indicates something other than an honest disagreement to me.

      • Cadwallader says:
        November 19, 2011 at 09:25

        Ok. It is just that Peters does not even purport to hold a principle, at least the other players, disagreeable hypocrites as they are, do not incessantly and exclusively wallow in the politics of derision. Poser: If you were heading to the ballot box in NZ (or Oz) who would you vote for?

        • KG says:
          November 19, 2011 at 10:29

          I won’t vote. To vote is to legitimise a corrupt charade.

          • Robertvdl says:
            November 19, 2011 at 10:35

            Exactly !

          • Cadwallader says:
            November 19, 2011 at 12:16

            But not to vote and continue to bellyache nonetheless is masturbatory.

            • KG says:
              November 19, 2011 at 12:21

              Which comment demonstrates the depth of your intellect. Abstaining from the process is an honourable, well-explained and intellectually and morally defensible position.
              I have no intention of going through the same explanations again and again.

              • Cadwallader says:
                November 19, 2011 at 13:07

                Well no. You often and correctly laud the soldiers who fought for the ideals of freedom in past wars. One ideal was democracy (rightly or wrongly.) To abstain from the voting process because the conduct of current MPs is beneath your perceptions of nicety (intellectually and morally) is a witless withdrawal from that ideal. I have an inherited silver teapot (my right to vote was also inherited) which I don’t use but despite this it tarnishes every few months. On your reasoning I ought cease polishing it and leave it to deteriorate.
                Some things whatever their immediate utility are too good to be ignored and too good not to be preserved! Therefore the depth of my “intellect” plummets further with my desire to preserve my own standards as they are measured by your definition.

        • Robertvdl says:
          November 20, 2011 at 07:05

          Why democracy is a bad thing and has nothing to do with Freedom.
          Michael Badnarik’s Constitution Class 2/7
          http://youtu.be/kB-qDr9p61Q
          min 28.10

  4. Sally says:
    November 19, 2011 at 05:28

    “According to a preliminary report released by the IPCC, there will be no detectable influence of mankind’s influence on the Earth’s weather systems for at least thirty years, and possibly not until the end of this century.”
    http://www.thegwpf.org/press-releases/4369-natural-variability-to-dominate-weather-events-over-coming-20-30-years.html

    Natural Variability To Dominate Weather Events Over Coming 20-30 Years
    GWPF Press Release – London – 18 November 2011

    London: For many decades to come, and probably longer, mankind’s influence on the frequency of extreme weather events will be insignificant.

    The Summary for Policymakers of the Special Report on Managing the Risks of Extreme Events and Disasters to Advance Climate Change Adaptation, is in stark contrast to other statements made by the IPCC. It shows that mankind’s influence on the weather is far smaller than natural factors.

    If and when mankind’s influence becomes apparent it may be just as likely to reduce the number of extreme weather events as increase them.

    Surveying the state of scientific knowledge IPCC scientists say they cannot determine if mankind’s influence will result in more, or fewer, extreme weather events over the next thirty years or more.

    The IPCC report says:

    “Projected changes in climate extremes under different emissions scenarios generally do not strongly diverge in the coming two to three decades, but these signals are relatively small compared to natural climate variability over this time frame. Even the sign of projected changes in some climate extremes over this time frame is uncertain”

    “This shows the depth of our ignorance of this subject,” says Dr David Whitehouse, science editor of the GWPF. “Whilst it is always important to think about the future in the light of changes we observe to the Earth’s climate, in trying to draw conclusions so far ahead based on what we know, the IPCC scientists are speculating far beyond any reasonable scientific justification.”

    Even making the questionable assumption that our computer models are good enough to predict what will happen in the future, for projected changes by the end of the 21st century, the uncertainties in those computer models, and the range of natural climatic variability, are far larger than any predicted human-influenced effects.

    Extreme weather events have always been with us, and will continue to be so. It is the international community’s responsibility to make those likely to be subjected to them become more resilient.

  5. mawm says:
    November 19, 2011 at 06:37

    Some one is talking sh*t.

    Frequency and severity for cyclones in the Gulf of Carpentaria.
    http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/images/nt/nt-frequency.png

    Frequency in the North Atlantic – 5 decade decline (although ten year old report)
    http://www.columbia.edu/itc/journalism/cases/katrina/Academic%20Journals/Geophysical%20Research%20Letters/Landsea%20GRL%2096.pdf

    CSIRO shows cyclone (hurricane) frequency down, contradict Gore and many others who claim Global Warming will increase them
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/04/csiro-shows-cyclone-hurricane-frequency-down-contradict-gore-and-many-others-who-claim-global-warming-will-increase-them/

  6. Sally says:
    November 19, 2011 at 09:12

    This report came out yesterday.

    “According to a preliminary report released by the IPCC, there will be no detectable influence of mankind’s influence on the Earth’s weather systems for at least thirty years, and possibly not until the end of this century.”

    Natural Variability To Dominate Weather Events Over Coming 20-30 Years
    GWPF Press Release – London – 18 November 2011

    http://www.thegwpf.org/press-releases/4369-natural-variability-to-dominate-weather-events-over-coming-20-30-years.html

    The IPCC report says:

    “Projected changes in climate extremes under different emissions scenarios generally do not strongly diverge in the coming two to three decades, but these signals are relatively small compared to natural climate variability over this time frame. Even the sign of projected changes in some climate extremes over this time frame is uncertain”

    “This shows the depth of our ignorance of this subject,” says Dr David Whitehouse, science editor of the GWPF. “Whilst it is always important to think about the future in the light of changes we observe to the Earth’s climate, in trying to draw conclusions so far ahead based on what we know, the IPCC scientists are speculating far beyond any reasonable scientific justification.”

  7. KG says:
    November 19, 2011 at 10:46

    Good links. ‘Watts Up With That’ is always good reading.

  8. mort says:
    November 19, 2011 at 11:57

    30 years… the lying bastards will be dead and buried by then so won’t have to face the music for their lies

  9. KG says:
    November 19, 2011 at 13:13

    To continue the discussion, Cadwallader…if you think polishing a teapot which you don’t use is a reasonable analogy concerning voting, I can only shake my head in despair.
    That’s so full of holes, ignores so much about what’s wrong with a broken system, is so totally simplistic and just plain stupid–I can’t be bothered.

    • Cadwallader says:
      November 19, 2011 at 14:31

      It was an allegory to exemplify that some things are intrinsically worth preserving. The right to vote is worth preserving as is your right not to vote. But not voting is scarcely an honourable (non) act as you claim.

  11. Flashman says:
    November 20, 2011 at 04:43

    These climate clowns are meeting in broken-arse Africa.

    !O! The irony.

  12. MK says:
    November 20, 2011 at 20:50

    Not need to squawk about storms, end of the world conferences and all that people, didn’t you hear, the fascist cow masquerading as our prime minister and more recently masquerading as a conservative, is taxing the air we breath now, so that should solve the problem. Cyclones be afraid, very afraid!

    Australia, leading the charge, doing our fair share, going it alone and all that shit folks.